Ron,
Some would say too much to say!  I believe your assessment might be pushing
the boundaries a bit.  While the modalities employed by the PT have purpose
and thereby a function, I was referring to functional activity as it relates
to the client.  Function to me entails an engagement aspect as well as a
goal which is purposeful.  TENS does not require engagement of the client
due to its passive nature.  Isometric exercises while requiring the
engagement of the individual, have limited purpose and goal direction.  I
did like your statement about perception as it relates to meaning and
relevance.  

Jimmie

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Carson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 7:38 PM
To: Jimmie Arcenaux
Subject: Re: [OTlist] what is OT?

Hello Jimmie:

I  tend  to disagree with your statement that: "A functional activity by
its definition has meaning and relevance to the individual's life" Well,
maybe  I  don't  disagree 100% with the statement but from a therapeutic
perspective, I will disagree. Here's an example.

My  wife recently began seeing PT for what was diagnosed as degenerative
disk  disease.  The  PT  has  evaluated  her and began treating with the
following  modalities:  hot/cold,  cervical  traction,  TENS,  isometric
stretches  and  massage.  All  of these are functional activities in the
sense  that  each modality has a function. However, these activities may
have  little  meaning  and relevance to my wife's life. Yes, they may be
improving her spinal function but are the activities full of meaning and
relevance. Probably not, but in truth only she can answer that question.

And  I  think  that  points  to  one  of the biggest differences between
function  and  meaning.  Something's  function  is  what  you see on the
outside,  however,  something's  meaning  is what one experiences on the
inside.  There is almost no way that you can look someone engaging in an
activity,  regardless  of  its  function,  and understand the activities
meaning  and  relevance  to  the client. Only the client experiences the
meaning  so  only  the  client  can  fully  express  the meaning.

Almost  everything  in  which  a  person  engages  or  experiences has a
function.  But of that in which we engage, how much has true meaning and
relevance?

I  guess  the  debate  begs the question, what is the difference between
function  and  occupation. For my opinion on this question , I point you
to the following link: www.otnow.com/newsletter/current_newsletter.htm

Thanks for the interesting debate,

Ron

P.S. My wife says that male OT's always have a lot to say!!! :-)

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On 7/30/2003,[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

JA> Biraj,

JA> Are you implying that "activities which an individual needs to do or is
JA> expected to do" are not functional? I agree that occupation is a broader
JA> concept, but I believe what is occupational is also functional.
Occupation
JA> to me is the work of living as a human being.  A functional activity by
its
JA> definition has meaning and relevance to the individual's life.

JA> Thanks Brian for the reference to the roots of OT.  I could not agree
with
JA> you more.

JA> Jimmie

JA> -----Original Message-----
JA> From: Incandescent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
JA> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 9:04 AM
JA> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JA> Subject: Re: [OTlist] what is OT?

JA> Hi Jimmie:

JA> Not to put too fine a point on this but my sense is that when viewed
from
JA> the
JA> perspective of activities "Occupational" is a distinct and larger
concept
JA> than
JA> "functional". The former also includes within it what is meaningful to
the
JA> individual, whereas "functional" as the word implies refers to those
aspects
JA> of
JA> activities which an individual needs to do or is expected to do - thus
JA> functional.

JA> What do others think?

JA> Biraj

JA> Jimmie Arcenaux wrote:

>> I believe also that the use of occupational or "functional" (I hate using
>> that term because it is coined well too often by OTs) activities as the
>> primary treatment modality is a hallmark of occupational therapy.  It is
>> what the professions history is based upon.
>> Jimmie



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