Ron, It is clear to me that you advocate for the continued debate of this topic. I would rather advocate for the profession. And I sincerely believe that my education and that of my students prepares me and them to treat the whole person. But I do not do surgery. Estelle
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Carson Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:52 PM To: Dr. Estelle Breines Subject: Re: [OTlist] what is OT? Hello Estelle: With all due respect, what may be a dead horse for yourself is new material for other readers. I for one, advocate the continued debate of this topic. It seems to me that there remains must confusion over OT's definition and role, not only by other professionals but by OT's themselves. While PT's do have their own problems, I disagree that we are not in competition. All healthcare providers that work in similar domains are in competition with each other. All types of therapists including, Rec, Speech, Massage, Physical, Occupation and rehab therapists are competing for access to a limited resource. While I agree that we need not continually 'compare' ourselves to PT, it seems to me that we are definitely in some form of competition with their profession. As for treating the whole person, I think that no one discipline can treat the whole person. A person is much to intricate and complex be treated as a whole. And even if we do treat the whole person, most other professions will say the same thing. That is that they treat the whole person. As a PT or a nurse and they will probably say something similiar to treating the whole person. While I do not advocate a reductionistic approach to treatment, I also believe that as OT's we are grossly limited by our knowledge and practice acts to treat the whole person. The best that I can hope for when it comes to clients, is to treat them as individuals with missing occupational needs, wants and desires. Just my 2 cents, Ron ============================================= On 8/1/2003,[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DEB> In 1955, Frieda Behlen taught me that "OT treats the whole person." DEB> Nothing has changed! DEB> If everyone would spend their time advancing OT instead of reworking the DEB> same old dead horse, we'd all be better off DEB> Go see your political representatives, or do some clinical research, or DEB> get a population hooked on promoting OT. Forget about PT. We are not DEB> in competition with them. They have their own problems. DEB> Dr. Estelle Breines DEB> -----Original Message----- DEB> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf DEB> Of Brian Holmquist DEB> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 10:03 AM DEB> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DEB> Subject: RE: [OTlist] what is OT? DEB> don't forget, if you are to use history to define OT one must look to DEB> the Hull House and the immense psycho-social influence that is largely DEB> lost in many practice areas of OT... just my two cents. DEB> Brian Holmquist MOT, OTR/L >>From: Jimmie Arcenaux >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" >>Subject: RE: [OTlist] what is OT? >>Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 07:50:30 -0600 >> >>I believe also that the use of occupational or "functional" (I hate DEB> using >>that term because it is coined well too often by OTs) activities as the >>primary treatment modality is a hallmark of occupational therapy. It is >>what the professions history is based upon. >>Jimmie >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:56 PM >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: Re: [OTlist] what is OT? >> >>I think the big difference between PT and OT is that PT looks at a DEB> specific >>part and determine what the dysfunction is and treat what they find DEB> from >>there. >>This in turn aids the person to be able to return the patient to a DEB> function. >> >>Where as with OT the look at the whole individual physically and >>psychologically and find a way to either adapt or assist the patient in >>doing the >>activities that they want to do. >> >>CR >> >>Developing your own mind and your psyche will keep you in control of DEB> your >>own reality. - Sister Souljah >> >> >>*****************************RC********************************** >> >>To remove yourself from the OTnow mail list, send a message to: >> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>In the message's *body*, put the following text: >> >>unsubscribe OTlist >> >>- >> >>List messages are archived at: >> >>http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>*****************************RC*********************************** >> >> >>*****************************RC********************************** >> >>To remove yourself from the OTnow mail list, send a message to: >> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>In the message's *body*, put the following text: >> >>unsubscribe OTlist >> >>- >> >>List messages are archived at: >> >>http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>*****************************RC*********************************** >> DEB> _____ DEB> Protect your PC - Click here <http://g.msn.com/8HMCENUS/2755??PS=> for DEB> McAfee.com VirusScan Online DEB> *****************************??********************************** To DEB> remove yourself from the OTnow mail list, send a message to: DEB> [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the message's *body*, put the following text: DEB> unsubscribe OTlist - List messages are archived at: DEB> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] DEB> *****************************??*********************************** *****************************RC********************************** To remove yourself from the OTnow mail list, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the message's *body*, put the following text: unsubscribe OTlist - List messages are archived at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] *****************************RC*********************************** *****************************��********************************** To remove yourself from the OTnow mail list, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the message's *body*, put the following text: unsubscribe OTlist - List messages are archived at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] *****************************��***********************************
