Hi Jimmie!

We went there about a year and a half ago.  It is the CT hospice
organization and apparently where hospice started in this country.

Mary

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Subject: RE: [OTlist] hospice



Hello Ron and Mary,

That is what I thought.  We have had many hospices come to market the
home care agency and I have not heard one mention OT as a service.  When
asked about this, they remark that rehabilitation isn't generally a
priority in hospice care.  This is beyond the point that OT in hospice
care would not be furnished in a rehabilitative manner. 


Mary, how long ago did you make that visit to the hospice?  I'm
wondering, if like so many other services, hospice has moved from a fee
for service to prospective payment system in the recent past.  If not,
than this hospice you are speaking of must be very progressive and
demonstrative of caring beyond the typical boundaries of hospice care.

Jimmie

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Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:57 PM
To: Jimmie Arceneaux
Subject: Re: [OTlist] hospice


Hello Jimmie:

I  have always been intrigued with working in hospice. Before OT school,
I was a hospice patient family volunteer. While in grad school, I gave a
presentation  to  our  local  hospice  on  "The  Role of OT in Hospice".
Several  years  after  graduating,  I  had an opportunity to work with a
hospice  that  was JUST starting to develop a therapy department. It was
great  because the hospice hired a PT consultant to put things together.
This  PT was great (she had been around a long time). For a while, I was
seeing  an  occasional  hospice patient. But then, financial reality hit
the  hospice leadership and they pulled the plug on everything! All this
is just to give a little background on my hospice experience.

On  to  your  questions/statements. You are correct that hospice is paid
per  diem.  For this payment, they are expected to provide all necessary
care for their patient. Should an OT be called in, the hospice pays that
therapist  from  this  per  diem  payment.  Thus you are 100% correct in
assuming  that little incentive exists to provide OT or PT services. Not
that it doesn't happen, but from my experience, it happens only rarely.

Other  than  the reimbursement issue, OT and hospice fit like a glove. I
always hoped that I would work with dying patients, but I've since given
up hope because hospice just won't pay for therapy services, except in a
few extreme cases. At least, that's my experience.

Ron

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On 3/31/2005, Jimmie Arceneaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:


JA> Question:

JA> This is directed specifically to U.S. OTs, but others may provide 
JA> information relative to their particular practice area.  I have 
JA> never worked in hospice care before, but I just read an article 
JA> about OT in hospice care.  I understand the philosophical basis of 
JA> OT with patients that would meet hospice criteria, but I am 
JA> wondering how an OT would gain access to hospice patients.  It is my

JA> understanding, although I may be wrong, that hospice is a bundled, 
JA> prospective payment, under Medicare.  It would seem under that type 
JA> of system that it would be difficult to convince the powers that be 
JA> of adding a non-typical service (i.e. as it would affect there 
JA> bottom line).  Is anyone currently on the list providing service to
JA> hospice patients?  If so, please provide information on the
JA> referral process and plan of care process.

JA> Thanks,

JA> Jimmie Arceneaux, LOTR
JA> Metro Preferred Home Care
JA> 3501 N. Causeway Blvd., Ste 200
JA> Metairie, LA 70002
JA> 504-838-7080
JA> Fax 504-833-9309



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