Hello Biraj: S&S can be found at:
http://www.ssww.com/ If you are looking for Allen's stuff, just type "Allen" in the home page's search box. Ron ----- On Monday, May 16, 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Hi Carmen and Ron: > Maybe I missed something, but can you give me a website and/or phone number > for S&S please. > Thanks in advance, > Biraj > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ron Carson<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Carmen Aguirre<mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: May 16, 2005 3:52 PM > Subject: Re[4]: [OTlist] Calling all Allen Cogn Screen People!!! A Question > Hello Carmen: > To tell the truth, I started ordering from S&S but when I saw that they > added a "handling" fee in addition to shipping, I opted to not provide > them my money. > I still don't understand why the product that I orderd from "Allen > Conferences" has a photocopied handbook! But, I will say that IT IS the > 2003 revision! > Ron > ===========> Original Message Follows .... > On5/16/2005, Carmen Aguirre, > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> said: > CA> I strongly recommend anyone interested in ordering ACLS and > CA> other Allen's battery items, that you go through S&S worldwide. My > CA> understanding is that Allen Conferences is NO LONGER a > CA> representative of Claudia Allen's work, revisions to her work, > CA> education/training on behalf of Claudia Allen, Tina Blue and Kathy > CA> Earthart. There is a revised version to the 2000 ACLS scoring > CA> guidelines completed by the Allen Cognitive Advisors network in > CA> 2003. The guidelines are available ONLY through S&S worldwide. > CA> Members of the Allen Cognitive Network could answer more > CA> questions...Contacting Allen conferences and asking about the > CA> revised version may answer more questions for you... > CA> Carmen > CA> ----- Original Message ----- > CA> From: Ron > Carson<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > CA> To: Joan > Riches<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > CA> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 3:40 AM > CA> Subject: Re[2]: [OTlist] Calling all Allen Cogn Screen People!!! A > Question > CA> Hello Joan: > CA> Thanks for pointing out the information about the 4.2 vs. 4.4 > scoring. > CA> This means that the client scores a 4.4. > CA> I can not find the information in my ACLS 2000 manual about the > pouch > CA> versus non-pouch. Can you tell me what page in the manual has > the > CA> explanation? > CA> I must tell you though, I ordered my kit from "Allen Conferences" > in > CA> Ormond Beach, FL. (literally 20 minutes from my house). When the > kit > CA> arrived, it came in a open bag that was marked "S&S". The > instruction > CA> manual is a photocopy of the actual instruction booklet!!! And it > was > CA> simply copied onto several pieces of plain paper!! I called the > company > CA> back and he insisted that this is the way they receive them from > S&S! I > CA> wish I had Claudia Allen's e-mail because I would send her this > message. > CA> Ron > CA> ===========> Original Message Follows .... > CA> On5/12/2005, Joan Riches, > CA> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL > PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> > said: > CA> JR> Hi Ron > CA> JR> My version of the scoring which is the 2000 revision says "When > there is a > CA> JR> discrepancy between the whipstitch and single cordovan stitch, > score the > CA> JR> highest score." This is the last sentence in the administration > section > CA> JR> headed Whipstitch not in the scoring guidelines. > CA> JR> How do your clinical observations of this client fit with the > profile of the > CA> JR> screening score you got? You must validate it somehow by > observing actual > CA> JR> voluntary motor behaviour, or having behaviour described to you > by someone > CA> JR> other than the client, which fits the profile before you report > conclusions. > CA> JR> One way to validate is to continue interventions such as the > lymphodema > CA> JR> wrapping instruction and see if the 4.4 prediction holds. Then > you have a > CA> JR> good case for the client's continuing need for assistance. > CA> JR> 4.2/4.4 is such a neat score to start with. It gives you a crack > at all > CA> JR> three stitches but the inability is clear to see. At the > beginning it is > CA> JR> easy to doubt yourself at 4.6 and above when clients can put up a > verbal > CA> JR> screen. > CA> JR> My version also explains the pouch versus no pouch as item 6 in > the set up > CA> JR> instructions. > CA> JR> Generally to my initial amazement people do do all the things in > the scoring > CA> JR> guidelines. Sometimes they do completely different things. This > is our cue > CA> JR> to look for focal deficits and perceptual problems. It also gives > you > CA> JR> confidence to push for further investigation. Two of our > 'nonstandard' > CA> JR> clients had brain tumors and a third had a previously undetected > abdominal > CA> JR> mass - go figure. We kept insisting that there had to be > something until the > CA> JR> docs ordered more investigation. > CA> JR> Yes, we use the ADM. Often in a craft group to follow our long > term care > CA> JR> residents who have a base line score so we have a pretty good > idea where to > CA> JR> start, or with people who refuse the leather (often former nurses > or school > CA> JR> teachers). We use it also if we are checking for improvement > because > CA> JR> learning may be retained from the original administration. If you > are > CA> JR> following a decline you can continue to use the leather. It's an > expensive > CA> JR> proposition for someone working alone in private practice like > you. What > CA> JR> "book" do you have? > CA> JR> Kathy Earhart who has developed most of the ADM was the main > speaker at last > CA> JR> year's symposium and she put us all through our paces. I'll never > forget my > CA> JR> red face when I looked at my own sun hanger and said "There is a > mistake in > CA> JR> the sample." -looked again and saw why the piece in question was > positioned > CA> JR> as it was. We all learned a lot about ourselves. > CA> JR> Again - have fun. > CA> JR> Joan Riches > CA> JR> -----Original Message----- > CA> JR> From: > CA> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL > PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > CA> JR> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > CA> JR> Of Ron Carson > CA> JR> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 2:38 PM > CA> JR> To: > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > CA> JR> Subject: [OTlist] Calling all Allen Cogn Screen People!!! A > Question > CA> JR> OK all you allen people, I need help!! The scoring > guidelines are > CA> JR> confusing. > CA> JR> The whipstich guidelines indicate a score of 4.4 is > possible,if the > CA> JR> client corrects mistakes. However, the more complicated cordovan > stitch > CA> JR> results in a score of 4.2 if the client "follows the whip > stitch...and > CA> JR> does not benefit from [repeated] demonstration". > CA> JR> So, what is the score if the client complete the whipstich and > corrects > CA> JR> mistakes (4.4) but then is unable to do the cordovan stitch (4.2)? > CA> JR> Thanks > CA> JR> Ron > CA> JR> P.S. I am open and willing to hear any and all suggestions > about the > CA> JR> ACLS. > CA> JR> p.s.s. Does anyone use the Allen Diag. 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