I am talking about advanced dementia Ron. These people are deprived of
occupation. Handling and manipulating things they recognise often provides a
sense of accomplishment especially when their efforts are recognised and
appreciated. Your final statement is quite true when people are able to
compare present and past abilities.

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Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 5:10 PM
To: Joan Riches
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Sorting Silverware?

Joan, interesting answer, as always.

I don't understand the following:

JR>Sorry. [ Enabling ]occupation in this setting is providing support for
the satisfaction
JR> of doing which may be possible only at the level of actions.

Also, I'm not sure that I fully accept this statement:

JR> For many women, cooks, waiters, butlers and footmen the memories and
JR> sense of accomplishment even in a simulated task will be far greater
JR> than using cones.

Even  though  a  person  previously engaged in an occupation, that is no
assurance  that  the person will derive any sense of accomplishment from
TRYING  the  same  occupation.  In fact, I OFTEN find just the opposite.
Many  times,  people  are unwilling to learn a new way of doing what was
once a familiar occupation.

Interesting topics!

Ron


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Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007
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Subj: [OTlist] Sorting Silverware?

JR> Hi Ron
JR> One of the Toglia assessments involves sorting cutlery (As a jewellers
JR> daughter I question whether the utensils in question were actually
silver)
JR> Also one of the renewable activities that we provide for low level
dementia
JR> folk involves sorting plastic cutlery. This activity can be graded up or
JR> down and is available when needed. I know there is some debate about
using
JR> simulated rather than active productive meaningful tasks. I know that
these
JR> familiar tasks sorting, folding etc. are meaningful for many of our
JR> residents. The skill involved is in matching the task to the person,
JR> prescribing both task and supervision and following up to monitor
changes in
JR> cognition. Occupation in this setting is providing support for the
JR> satisfaction of doing which may be possible only at the level of
actions.
JR> I don't know why the person you saw was sorting cutlery and it may
indeed be
JR> just a step away from using cones. For many women, cooks, waiters,
butlers
JR> and footmen the memories and sense of accomplishment even in a simulated
JR> task will be far greater than using cones.
JR> Blessings, Joan   

JR> -----Original Message-----
JR> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
JR> Of Ron Carson
JR> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:58 PM
JR> To: OTlist
JR> Subject: [OTlist] Sorting Silverware?

JR> Hello Everyone:

JR> Will  someone  please  tell  me why OT would have a SNF (Skilled Nursing
JR> Facility) standing and sorting silverware? Surely, no patient really has
JR> a goal of sorting silverware, do they?

JR> I've  never  understood this aspect of OT! Why have patients standing to
JR> do something so that they can do something else? If the patient needs to
JR> be  able  to stand and get their clothes, brush their teeth, walk to the
JR> dining room, go pee, etc, etc, why not use these as the treatment?

JR> Thanks,

JR> Ron

JR> --
JR> "... as a profession that offers unique services that are ideally suited
JR> to  meet  the health, participation, and quality of life needs of people
JR> of  all  ages,  occupational  therapy  is well-positioned to succeed and
JR> flourish in the 21st century." [Fred Somers, AJOT, April, 2005, p. 127]

JR> "The  part of convalescence that I found most profoundly humiliating and
JR> depressing  was  [OT]...  I was reduced to playing with brightly colored
JR> plastic  letters  ...  like  a three-year-old..." [AJOT, April, 2005, p.
JR> 231]


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