Sounds GREAT Joan!! I think it also sort of confirms the concept that men usually socialize over a goal.
Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: Joan Riches <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subj: [OTlist] Geriatric Men and Lack of Sociialization JR> Hi Ron JR> The most successful activity I have seen for our male residents is cooking JR> breakfast, JR> eating it together and cleaning up. We have an OT kitchen. The ambience JR> approaches what I imagine happens in a hunting lodge. It lends itself nicely JR> to different levels of ability and is easily adapted for more or less setup JR> and assistance by staff. They really appreciate being able to have eggs JR> cooked exactly as they like them. Joan JR> -----Original Message----- JR> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf JR> Of Jim Arceneaux JR> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 10:54 PM JR> To: [email protected] JR> Subject: Re: [OTlist] Geriatric Men and Lack of Sociialization JR> Hey Ron, JR> JR> I find that at most ALFs and nursing homes the activities departments are JR> good at offering interesting things for the women to do, but lack in their JR> attraction to men. Face it, Bingo is not a top of the list for most men. I JR> have seen one nursing home that hired a group that brought a large pool that JR> was stocked with fish. The men were all over this. JR> JR> The other thing is that men, in general, socialize as part of engagement JR> in more material matters (i.e. standing over an ice chest of fish and JR> telling fishing jokes.) Women, in general, socialize for the purpose of JR> socialization. They tend to comunicate on a deeper level then what is JR> typically observed of men in a gathering. JR> JR> Just my two cents. Hope its worth at least that. JR> JR> Jim Arceneaux JR> susanne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: JR> Ron Carson wrote: >> Hello Everyone: >> >> I provide OT and an ALF. It's a 33 bed facility that is >> mostly women but >> has about 5 or 6 men. Some of the men have been here for >> years. They are >> in varying states of physical and mental health, but >> they are all able >> to participate in life. BUT, they don't!! The women >> get together and >> chat and socialize, but the men stay so isolated from >> each other. WHY? JR> Maybe their idea of participating in life is to do something JR> outside of the place where they live, sleep, eat - and with JR> someone else? Like, they went out to work all their life - JR> they might still want to spend some of their day somewhere JR> else? >> >> I know that I am not an overly social person. I >> don't hang out with >> other men just to talk. In fact, I'm uncomfortable in >> social situations >> that don't have goals. JR> I'm with you about the goals - and I guess some of us prefer JR> them more visible, or physical... But I also have a picture JR> coming up for me of Turkish cafés filled with retired men, JR> playing backgammon, smoking and drinking tea (or Raki) all JR> day long. And students of both sexes, with books and JR> laptops, spending all day in the cafés that have free refill JR> of coffee. Lots of chatting and socializing going on.. >> >> Is the lack of male socialization just part of the >> male condition? Or >> has the right opportunity just no presented itself >> to bring the men >> together? JR> 5 or 6 is not a lot - might not appear to them that they JR> have much in common. But maybe if they went different places JR> during daytime, they'd have something to discuss at the end JR> of the day - or would like to tell the ladies about their JR> day. Any possibilities in the local area? Or just outside - JR> some hens to look after and a nice bench to hang out? 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