Hi Ron and others, although not necessary directly relevant to this situation of men in care facilities being discussed, some of the observations made on the page link provided below are. http://mensheds.com.au/menssheds_news/Mensheds%20news.html These have tended to operate more within Community Health settings and have become something of a grassroots public health movement here in Australia.
It strikes me that an interesting exercise might be to try and link in an already established community men's group with one in a long term care facility. Also, on a completely different topic, is anyone here hoping to go to the CSUN conference in 2008? cheers, David Harraway (OT) Ron Carson wrote: > Sounds GREAT Joan!! > > I think it also sort of confirms the concept that men usually socialize > over a goal. > > Ron > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Joan Riches <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subj: [OTlist] Geriatric Men and Lack of Sociialization > > JR> Hi Ron > JR> The most successful activity I have seen for our male residents is cooking > JR> breakfast, > JR> eating it together and cleaning up. We have an OT kitchen. The ambience > JR> approaches what I imagine happens in a hunting lodge. It lends itself > nicely > JR> to different levels of ability and is easily adapted for more or less > setup > JR> and assistance by staff. They really appreciate being able to have eggs > JR> cooked exactly as they like them. Joan > > JR> -----Original Message----- > JR> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > JR> Of Jim Arceneaux > JR> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 10:54 PM > JR> To: [email protected] > JR> Subject: Re: [OTlist] Geriatric Men and Lack of Sociialization > > JR> Hey Ron, > JR> > JR> I find that at most ALFs and nursing homes the activities departments > are > JR> good at offering interesting things for the women to do, but lack in their > JR> attraction to men. Face it, Bingo is not a top of the list for most men. > I > JR> have seen one nursing home that hired a group that brought a large pool > that > JR> was stocked with fish. The men were all over this. > JR> > JR> The other thing is that men, in general, socialize as part of engagement > JR> in more material matters (i.e. standing over an ice chest of fish and > JR> telling fishing jokes.) Women, in general, socialize for the purpose of > JR> socialization. They tend to comunicate on a deeper level then what is > JR> typically observed of men in a gathering. > JR> > JR> Just my two cents. Hope its worth at least that. > JR> > JR> Jim Arceneaux > > JR> susanne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > JR> Ron Carson wrote: > >>> Hello Everyone: >>> >>> I provide OT and an ALF. It's a 33 bed facility that is >>> mostly women but >>> has about 5 or 6 men. Some of the men have been here for >>> years. They are >>> in varying states of physical and mental health, but >>> they are all able >>> to participate in life. BUT, they don't!! The women >>> get together and >>> chat and socialize, but the men stay so isolated from >>> each other. WHY? >>> > > JR> Maybe their idea of participating in life is to do something > JR> outside of the place where they live, sleep, eat - and with > JR> someone else? Like, they went out to work all their life - > JR> they might still want to spend some of their day somewhere > JR> else? > >>> I know that I am not an overly social person. I >>> don't hang out with >>> other men just to talk. In fact, I'm uncomfortable in >>> social situations >>> that don't have goals. >>> > > JR> I'm with you about the goals - and I guess some of us prefer > JR> them more visible, or physical... But I also have a picture > JR> coming up for me of Turkish cafés filled with retired men, > JR> playing backgammon, smoking and drinking tea (or Raki) all > JR> day long. And students of both sexes, with books and > JR> laptops, spending all day in the cafés that have free refill > JR> of coffee. Lots of chatting and socializing going on.. > >>> Is the lack of male socialization just part of the >>> male condition? Or >>> has the right opportunity just no presented itself >>> to bring the men >>> together? >>> > > JR> 5 or 6 is not a lot - might not appear to them that they > JR> have much in common. But maybe if they went different places > JR> during daytime, they'd have something to discuss at the end > JR> of the day - or would like to tell the ladies about their > JR> day. Any possibilities in the local area? Or just outside - > JR> some hens to look after and a nice bench to hang out? > > JR> susanne, denmark > > > JR> -- > JR> Options? > JR> www.otnow.com/mailman/options/otlist_otnow.com > > JR> Archive? > JR> www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > JR> > **************************************************************************** > JR> ********** > JR> Enroll in Boston University's post-professional Master of Science for OTs > JR> Online. 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