I agree with Meg...it is very easy to go over thier heads depending on where
they are in a the program. Some are still learning what SOAP stands for and
have just recently opened up the practice framework. Don't dumb it down..but
keep in mind that most students like me are getting info thrown at us so
fast ( I am second year), it takes time to make it relevent. That really
does not happen until we are out there actually working. Even then...their
is an indefinite learning curve.  I am not yet familar with those models.
CMOP I have heard of... If you do include them, I would just make it
relevent to what a COTA would normally do in a facility.   Diane

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Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 12:52
To: Diane Randall
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Guest Lecture at COTA Program, but not sure..


Thanks Dianne and Meg!

In  my  mind,  I'm  thinking I want to leave students with information
that  will  be  generally  helpful.  In thinking over my education and
experience,  two  topics  stand  out  that  I feel have helped me be a
better therapist.

1. The Canadian Model of Occupational Performance (CMOP)

2. Carl Rogers' Therapeutic Relationship

I  have  an  extensive  32  slide PowerPoint presentation on the CMOP.
Obviously,  that's  too  much  information  but what if I trim it down
quite  bit,  through  in  Carl  Rogers'  "stuff" and then provide case
studies from patients I'm currently treating?

One problem though is that Carl Roger's "stuff" is difficult to see in
practice.  It  truly  is a way of "being" with patients and it is very
intrinsic.  So,  it's  hard  to "show" a therapeutic relationship in a
case study.

Ron
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From: Diane Randall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008
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DR> Hi, I am a lurker OTA student learning a lot by just reading these
posts. We
DR> do touch on theory...NDT, PNF, Rood Etc ETc but I think what future
COTAs
DR> really want to hear is more practical to everyday treatment. Teach
theory
DR> but relate it to treament ideas etc. You may consider touching on the
DR> OTR/COTA relationship. You do have COTA experience if you treat. It is
not
DR> much different than the way an OTR might treat.

DR> To refresh your memory. COTA's can treat but we usually can't
diagnose/do
DR> initial evals. We can interview and do some formal and informal
assesments.
DR> We can alter/grade treatment plans as the pt improves or otherwise. We
can
DR> design activites to treat the patient, bill, documment and report
changes in
DR> pt. statis to the OTR. Responsibilites may overlap according to the
facility
DR> or practice area. Our teacher says we "get to do the fun stuff" more
than an
DR> OTR might since OTRS have the final say, added responsibility, and spend
a
DR> great deal of time with paperwork. She is an OTR and although she likes
DR> doing evals, she would rather treat more often.

DR> I am surprised that some OTR's do not work with COTA's. I just assumed
that
DR> most practices had both...as in PT's and PTA's.   Diane

DR> -----Original Message-----
DR> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
DR> Behalf Of Pat
DR> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 10:04
DR> To: [email protected]
DR> Subject: Re: [OTlist] Guest Lecture at COTA Program, but not sure..


DR> Ron, I have never worked with a COTA either, but if I were in your
DR> position I would probably refresh my memory about exactly what it is
DR> that COTAs can do, and then relate that to what I would want/expect
DR> if they were working with me.  It never hurts to teach theory,
DR> because it helps to understand WHY a particular treatment/therapy is
DR> being done, or should be done.  I am fairly ignorant about COTAs
DR> (yes, I forgot that part of my schooling because I have never needed
DR> it)... I know they can't do evaluations, but can treat.  I would go
DR> ahead and teach the theory since that is what you are comfortable with.

DR> Pat

DR> At 02:23 PM 10/11/2008, you wrote:
>>Hello All:
>>
>>I am doing a guest a 2-hour guest lecture at a COTA program next week.
>>The  general topic is occupation and occupational performance, but I'm
>>not really sure what/how to teach.
>>
>>I  have  lots  of  teaching experience so I'm unconcerned about actual
>>presentation,  I  just  don't  have any COTA experience. I don't think
>>COTA's  get  much theory, but what I teach is mostly theory, with some
>>case study.
>>
>>Looking for any suggestions/feedback.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Ron
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>>
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