I understand about "going over their heads" and that's sort of OK. I am hoping to inspire students about HOW and WHY to have an occupation-based approach to their patients and practice, not about a specific treatment approach for a specific diagnosis.
I'm 100% confident that most students will give me the "deer in the headlights" look, but I'm hopeful that when they get out in the real-world, maybe some of what I say will come back. Thanks again for the dialogue, it's helping me whittle down my presentation!! Ron -- Ron Carson MHS, OT ----- Original Message ----- From: Diane Randall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subj: [OTlist] Guest Lecture at COTA Program, but not sure.. DR> I agree with Meg...it is very easy to go over thier heads depending on where DR> they are in a the program. Some are still learning what SOAP stands for and DR> have just recently opened up the practice framework. Don't dumb it down..but DR> keep in mind that most students like me are getting info thrown at us so DR> fast ( I am second year), it takes time to make it relevent. That really DR> does not happen until we are out there actually working. Even then...their DR> is an indefinite learning curve. I am not yet familar with those models. DR> CMOP I have heard of... If you do include them, I would just make it DR> relevent to what a COTA would normally do in a facility. Diane DR> -----Original Message----- DR> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DR> Behalf Of Ron Carson DR> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 12:52 DR> To: Diane Randall DR> Subject: Re: [OTlist] Guest Lecture at COTA Program, but not sure.. DR> Thanks Dianne and Meg! DR> In my mind, I'm thinking I want to leave students with information DR> that will be generally helpful. In thinking over my education and DR> experience, two topics stand out that I feel have helped me be a DR> better therapist. DR> 1. The Canadian Model of Occupational Performance (CMOP) DR> 2. Carl Rogers' Therapeutic Relationship DR> I have an extensive 32 slide PowerPoint presentation on the CMOP. DR> Obviously, that's too much information but what if I trim it down DR> quite bit, through in Carl Rogers' "stuff" and then provide case DR> studies from patients I'm currently treating? DR> One problem though is that Carl Roger's "stuff" is difficult to see in DR> practice. It truly is a way of "being" with patients and it is very DR> intrinsic. So, it's hard to "show" a therapeutic relationship in a DR> case study. DR> Ron DR> -- DR> Ron Carson MHS, OT DR> ----- Original Message ----- DR> From: Diane Randall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> DR> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 DR> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> DR> Subj: [OTlist] Guest Lecture at COTA Program, but not sure.. DR>> Hi, I am a lurker OTA student learning a lot by just reading these DR> posts. We DR>> do touch on theory...NDT, PNF, Rood Etc ETc but I think what future DR> COTAs DR>> really want to hear is more practical to everyday treatment. Teach DR> theory DR>> but relate it to treament ideas etc. You may consider touching on the DR>> OTR/COTA relationship. You do have COTA experience if you treat. It is DR> not DR>> much different than the way an OTR might treat. DR>> To refresh your memory. COTA's can treat but we usually can't DR> diagnose/do DR>> initial evals. We can interview and do some formal and informal DR> assesments. DR>> We can alter/grade treatment plans as the pt improves or otherwise. We DR> can DR>> design activites to treat the patient, bill, documment and report DR> changes in DR>> pt. statis to the OTR. Responsibilites may overlap according to the DR> facility DR>> or practice area. Our teacher says we "get to do the fun stuff" more DR> than an DR>> OTR might since OTRS have the final say, added responsibility, and spend DR> a DR>> great deal of time with paperwork. She is an OTR and although she likes DR>> doing evals, she would rather treat more often. DR>> I am surprised that some OTR's do not work with COTA's. I just assumed DR> that DR>> most practices had both...as in PT's and PTA's. Diane DR>> -----Original Message----- DR>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DR>> Behalf Of Pat DR>> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 10:04 DR>> To: [email protected] DR>> Subject: Re: [OTlist] Guest Lecture at COTA Program, but not sure.. DR>> Ron, I have never worked with a COTA either, but if I were in your DR>> position I would probably refresh my memory about exactly what it is DR>> that COTAs can do, and then relate that to what I would want/expect DR>> if they were working with me. It never hurts to teach theory, DR>> because it helps to understand WHY a particular treatment/therapy is DR>> being done, or should be done. I am fairly ignorant about COTAs DR>> (yes, I forgot that part of my schooling because I have never needed DR>> it)... I know they can't do evaluations, but can treat. I would go DR>> ahead and teach the theory since that is what you are comfortable with. DR>> Pat DR>> At 02:23 PM 10/11/2008, you wrote: >>>Hello All: >>> >>>I am doing a guest a 2-hour guest lecture at a COTA program next week. >>>The general topic is occupation and occupational performance, but I'm >>>not really sure what/how to teach. >>> >>>I have lots of teaching experience so I'm unconcerned about actual >>>presentation, I just don't have any COTA experience. I don't think >>>COTA's get much theory, but what I teach is mostly theory, with some >>>case study. >>> >>>Looking for any suggestions/feedback. >>> >>>Thanks, >>> >>>Ron >>>-- >>>Ron Carson MHS, OT >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Options? >>>www.otnow.com/mailman/options/otlist_otnow.com >>> >>>Archive? >>>www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] DR>> -- DR>> Options? DR>> www.otnow.com/mailman/options/otlist_otnow.com DR>> Archive? DR>> www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] DR>> -- DR>> Options? 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