Hi
 
I have worked in an in-patient rehab setting and most of my patients would have 
goals around toileting, washing and dressing. I would carry out an initial 
assessment with the paitents at the appropriate time of day e.g. first thing 
8.30..... it is important to try and see the patient carrying out these 
activities at the usual time that they would carry it out for a few reasons:
 

Their ability may vary at different times of the day
 

It goes towards recreating a realistic situation. This will increase carry over 
and assist patient to incorporate any adaptive techniques in this situation at 
home long after therapy input has stopped.
 
The ideal re the multidisciplinary team is that you communicate with eah other, 
and incorporate any techniques that other disciplines are using/teaching to the 
patient in all our interventions. E.g. if physio are working on 'normal 
movement' re sit - stand with a CVA patient the OT when assessing personal care 
should reinforce the techniques learnt in physio and ensure the patient is not 
using inappropriate compensatory techniques.
 
Re - nursing, assistants often they have a different approach and work more 
from a 'caring' than an 'enabling' approach. This is a matter of education.
 
 I was fortunate that I had therapy assistants who, following my initial 
assessment would follow a treatment plan that I would devise with the patient. 
The assistants would 2-3x per week support the patient with their morning 
routine and I would review this as required and adapt plan as the patient 
hopefully improved.
 
The best approach is to explore all forms of communication with your team. If 
all disciplines have a consistent approach then the patient is far more likely 
to progress and carry over the techniques/strategies that they learn during 
rehab.
 
We had a communication book, weekly meetings/goal setting, and sometimes took 
photo's of the patients, this was very effective when wanting all staff to 
adhere to UL positioning in lying/sitting/standing for a CVA patient with a 
subluxed shoulder.
 
One major difference for me though, being in the UK is that I do not have to 
'bill' for my time... we have to keep stats re our patient contact but being 
the national health service I think it is easier to spend time teaching our 
colleagues without having to justify it too much...(that is when we are fully 
staffed, which sadly is not often!!!)

Kind Regards 

Lucy Simpson 


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--- On Wed, 11/2/09, Ron Carson <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Ron Carson <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Back to basics?
To: "Barbara H. Hale" <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, 11 February, 2009, 12:39 AM

Am anything but insulted. I appreciate that you are seeking information.
I  will  ask  that  other  list  members  also add their 2 cents to this
discussion. Now, to answer your question.

Yes,  I  do work in home health. I previously worked in acute care rehab
and   loved   the   patient   population   but  hated  the  productivity
requirements.

I  was  a  new  therapist  then  and  my  approach to treatment is a lot
different  today. I think if I was working in rehab my approach would be
as follows:

        Help  the  patient  identify  their occupational goals, identify
        what's  impairing  those  goals,  treat  those  areas  that  are
        treatable and that I'm trained to treat.

In  some  ways,  working  with  a patient 2 days post stroke can be very
similar  to  working  with  a  patient  2 months post stroke. Sure, some
things  will  be different and you may have a very low level patient who
is  unable  to  verbalize goals. Of course, I also have patients who are
that way.

More  than anything else, almost every patient you have is going to want
to  stand  and/or  walk. They will want to stand to get and put on their
clothes.  They  want to stand to go to the bathroom and shower. So, work
on these goals by starting with the lowest common denominator.

Ron

--
Ron Carson MHS, OT
www.OTnow.com



----- Original Message -----
From: Barbara H. Hale <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009
To:   [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subj: [OTlist] Back to basics?

BHH> Hi - I hope you are not insulted by my questions. I would like to
understand
BHH> more fully your treatment concept for a patient that is not independent
in
BHH> toileting. Is your setting usually in the pts home? Do you ask the pt
to
BHH> take a dry run into the toilet? Do you ask the pt if they need to
actually
BHH> use the bathroom?  Do you simulate any activities? I do not think that
you
BHH> are asking the pts to undress each time you enter their home.

BHH> In my setting, acute rehab, what type of initial suggestion would you
make
BHH> to a pt a few days post CVA or Hip Fx? Lets get up and sit on the BSC?
Lets
BHH> get up and get into the wheelchair so we can go to the tx gym? All my 
BHH> sessions are not first thing in the AM when it really would make sense
to do
BHH> concrete care such as toileting. CNA's and Rehab Techs are often
the initial
BHH> contact for the day and will have already assisted the pt with their 
BHH> toileting. It is not considered OT when that other staff member assists

BHH> them, and the other staff may do more for them without asking them to 
BHH> participate. I often feel that I should be training the staff for more 
BHH> opportunities using the skills that will be taught in tx. but that is
not
BHH> billable tx time.

BHH> Asking a CNA for input in the level of assist needed for toileting
would
BHH> only make sense in a perfect world. But we are asked not to overlap 
BHH> PT/OT/Nursing for fear the tx will be seen as un-necessary? What the pt
is
BHH> able to do for themselves certainly will change as they begin to heal
from
BHH> their insult. By the time you see them in home tx they are more aware
of
BHH> what their priorities are. 


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