Chris, I do not feel like I'm straddling the fence. When I do lymphedema
treatment,  that  is  EXACTLY  what I'm doing. I am NOT doing OT. I feel
that  same  about  hand therapy, driver training, etc. These specialized
roles  (especially ones that are discipline independent (e.g. lymphedema,
hand therapy) are so far removed from mainstream OT that they should not
be referred to as OT.

I  have  NO  problem  with  OT's doing UE therapy, but that is what they
should call it. My problem is that the vast majority of OT's that I know
practice neither impairment-based nor occupation-based therapy. Instead,
they practice an amalgam of both which is really just "mush".

I  ask  my  patients  if  they had OT before seeing me. The majority say
"yes".  I  ask  them  what  the  OT  did.  The VAST majority indicate UE
function.  I  ask them if is was effective in helping reach their goals.
The  majority  just  sort  of  "shrug"  and  roll their eyes. THIS IS MY
EXPERIENCE about OT.

It  is  my  opinion  that  the  MAJORITY  of people having knowledge and
interaction with adult phys dys OT think one of two things:

1. It's UE PT

2. It's a waste of time.

Neither  of  these  are acceptable to me. I want people to see OT as the
profession that restored their lives.

Thanks,

Ron

~~~
Ron Carson MHS, OT
www.OTnow.com



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cac> Ron,

cac> Not sure where the disagreement is found "Chris, so of what you say is 
cac> correct, but much isn't"

cac> So it is ok to step out of your traditional role as an OT to complete 
cac> lymphedma treatment, but it is not ok to step out of the traditional 
cac> role as an OT to complete UE orthopedic treatment?  Seems to me you are 
cac> on both sides of the fence, but for some reason you cannot stand UE 
cac> impairment based treatment.

cac> Chris

cac> -----Original Message-----
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cac> Hello All:

cac> Chris, so of what you say is correct, but much isn't.

cac> I  am 100% for treating physical disabilities as they impair occupation.
cac> However, my experience is that MOST (almost 100% is my guess) ONLY TREAT
cac> the UE as it relates to occupation. That to me is WRONG for patients and
cac> wrong for our profession.

cac> I  agree that "true" hand therapy is a gray area and as you mention, can
cac> be  done  by  OT  or  PT. In these cases I prefer to think the person is
cac> doing  hand  therapy,  not OT or PT. At some point, any professional can
cac> move  so  far  away from their practice paradigm that they are no longer
cac> practicing their profession. This is almost never a clear cut line.

cac> However,  hand therapy is not a real concern for me. What does bother me
cac> is  that  most OT's who I know that work in adult phys dys practice like
cac> hand  therapists,  but without the advanced skills. In my experience, OT
cac> is  known as UE hand therapy. Almost EVERY experience that people relate
cac> to  me  about  OT  is  hand/UE  related. I almost NEVER hear about an OT
cac> giving people back their lives, or restoring occupation, etc.

cac> In my opinion, despite a significant change in AOTA's literature, almost
cac> nothing  has  changed in adult phys dys practice. Today, OT use the word
cac> occupation,  but  that's about it. They don't really practice occupation
cac> based  therapy because if they did, most of them would not be focused on
cac> the UE.

cac> In  my  home  health  company,  I  refuse  to treat UE injury UNLESS the
cac> patient  is  FOCUSED  ON  IMPROVING  OCCUPATION. Initially this caused a
cac> significant  rift  for  my employer but they have accepted it and worked
cac> around  it  by referring such patients to other OT's. But, this does not
cac> mean  I  don't treat PEOPLE with UE injury. In fact, I just d/c'd such a
cac> person.

cac> It is my SINCERE (and I mean SINCERE) desire to see the profession of OT
cac> embrace occupation. I will continue beating this "horse" until I give up
cac> or  die. And I mean that with all my heart.


cac> ----- Original Message -----
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cac>> I see the horse is not dead yet!!!!

cac>> This age old debate revolves around the top down approach and the
cac>> bottom up approach to treatment, or the occupation as a means or 
cac> an
cac>> end.  We as OTs in physical disabilities can choose either to 
cac> treat
cac>> occupational dysfunction in two ways a) Use occupations as the
cac>> treatment modality to combat the issue of occupational dysfunction
cac>> either through restoration or compensation or b) Treat the 
cac> underlying
cac>> impairment.  In my opinion it simply depends on what is causing 
cac> the
cac>> occupational dysfunction.  If an occupational takes an interest in 
cac> hand
cac>> therapy and they decide to specialize in this area (PTs can do 
cac> this
cac>> too) then I would say that the occupational therapist is doing 
cac> hand
cac>> therapy.  I would not state that they are doing physical therapy
cac>> because this is a gray area.  Perhaps a physical therapist takes 
cac> an
cac>> interest in visual perceptual training ( my PT friend did) because 
cac> of
cac>> their strong background in neurorehabilitation.  When they utilize 
cac> this
cac>> training during treatment sessions to facilitate better outcomes 
cac> with
cac>> gait and balance, would they state that they are doing 
cac> occupational
cac>> therapy? What if a PT takes a liking to driving evals and training
cac>> (IADL),. Would they call it occupational therapy or drivers 
cac> training?

cac>> What Ron is simply trying to do is change the paradigm of 
cac> occupatonal
cac>> therapy and simply rewrite the textbooks we once read in school, 
cac> by
cac>> erasing the biomechanical model.  I applaud him to a certain 
cac> extent,
cac>> but at times I an confused by his reasoning.

cac>> Hand Therapy does not necessarily mean a cone or peg pusher 
cac> therapist.
cac>> A Hand therapist does not necessarily give the pubilic a certain 
cac> image
cac>> of what OT is , but it is the misguided therapist that provides OT
cac>> without meaning in order complete enough time to reach a certain 
cac> RUG
cac>> level or complete the "Three hour rule".  I do not think it is 
cac> Ron's
cac>> intent to upset all of the OTs who practice hand therapy, but to 
cac> guide
cac>> phys dys OTs to provide meaning during their therapy sessions in 
cac> order
cac>> to clean up the public perception of what we do.

cac>> Chris Nahrwold MS, OTR..



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