Hi Dumitru,

I’ve tried to exclude OOT OVS kernel module.
With OVN 20.06.3 + OVS 2.13.4 the problem solved.

Could you please try with OOT kmod? For me it looks like a bug in OOT OVS 
kernel module code.

Thanks.

Regards,
Vladislav Odintsov

> On 16 Sep 2021, at 11:02, Dumitru Ceara <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On 9/16/21 2:50 AM, Vladislav Odintsov wrote:
>> Hi Dumitru,
>> 
>> thanks for your reply.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Vladislav Odintsov
>> 
>>> On 15 Sep 2021, at 11:24, Dumitru Ceara <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Vladislav,
>>> 
>>> On 9/13/21 6:14 PM, Vladislav Odintsov wrote:
>>>> Hi Numan,
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve checked with OVS 2.16.0 and OVN master. The problem persists.
>>>> Symptoms are the same.
>>>> 
>>>> # grep ct_zero_snat /var/log/openvswitch/ovs-vswitchd.log
>>>> 2021-09-13T16:10:01.792Z|00019|ofproto_dpif|INFO|system@ovs-system: 
>>>> Datapath supports ct_zero_snat
>>> 
>>> This shouldn't be related to the problem we fixed with ct_zero_snat.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Vladislav Odintsov
>>>> 
>>>>> On 13 Sep 2021, at 17:54, Numan Siddique <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 8:10 AM Vladislav Odintsov <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> we’ve encountered a next problem with stateful ACLs.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Suppose, we have one logical switch (ls1) and attached to it a VIF type 
>>>>>> logical ports (lsp1, lsp2).
>>>>>> Each logical port has a linux VM besides it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Logical ports reside in port group (pg1) and two ACLs are created within 
>>>>>> this PG:
>>>>>> to-lport outport == @pg1 && ip4 && ip4.dst == 0.0.0.0/0 allow-related
>>>>>> from-lport outport == @pg1 && ip4 && ip4.src == 0.0.0.0/0 allow-related
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When we have a high-connection rate service between VMs, the tcp 
>>>>>> source/dest ports may be reused before the connection is deleted from 
>>>>>> LSP’s-related conntrack zones on the host.
>>>>>> Let’s use curl with passing --local-port argument to have each time same 
>>>>>> source port.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Run it from VM to another VM (172.31.0.18 -> 172.31.0.17):
>>>>>> curl --local-port 44444 http://172.31.0.17/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Check connections in client’s and server’s vif zones (client - zone=20, 
>>>>>> server - zone=1):
>>>>>> run while true script to check connections state per-second, while 
>>>>>> running new connection with same source/dest 5-tuple:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> while true; do date; grep -e 'zone=1 ' -e zone=20 
>>>>>> /proc/net/nf_conntrack; sleep 0.2; done
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Right after we’ve succesfully run curl, the connection is getting 
>>>>>> time-closed and next time-wait states:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mon Sep 13 14:34:39 MSK 2021
>>>>>> ipv4     2 tcp      6 59 CLOSE_WAIT src=172.31.0.18 dst=172.31.0.17 
>>>>>> sport=44444 dport=80 src=172.31.0.17 dst=172.31.0.18 sport=80 
>>>>>> dport=44444 [ASSURED] mark=0 zone=1 use=2
>>>>>> ipv4     2 tcp      6 59 CLOSE_WAIT src=172.31.0.18 dst=172.31.0.17 
>>>>>> sport=44444 dport=80 src=172.31.0.17 dst=172.31.0.18 sport=80 
>>>>>> dport=44444 [ASSURED] mark=0 zone=20 use=2
>>>>>> Mon Sep 13 14:34:39 MSK 2021
>>>>>> ipv4     2 tcp      6 119 TIME_WAIT src=172.31.0.18 dst=172.31.0.17 
>>>>>> sport=44444 dport=80 src=172.31.0.17 dst=172.31.0.18 sport=80 
>>>>>> dport=44444 [ASSURED] mark=0 zone=1 use=2
>>>>>> ipv4     2 tcp      6 119 TIME_WAIT src=172.31.0.18 dst=172.31.0.17 
>>>>>> sport=44444 dport=80 src=172.31.0.17 dst=172.31.0.18 sport=80 
>>>>>> dport=44444 [ASSURED] mark=0 zone=20 use=2
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And it remains in time-wait state for nf_conntrack_time_wait_timeout 
>>>>>> (120 seconds for centos 7).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Everything is okay for now.
>>>>>> While we have installed connections in TW state in zone 1 and 20, lets 
>>>>>> run this curl (source port 44444) again:
>>>>>> 1st SYN packet is lost. It didn’t get to destination VM. In conntrack we 
>>>>>> have:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mon Sep 13 14:34:41 MSK 2021
>>>>>> ipv4     2 tcp      6 118 TIME_WAIT src=172.31.0.18 dst=172.31.0.17 
>>>>>> sport=44444 dport=80 src=172.31.0.17 dst=172.31.0.18 sport=80 
>>>>>> dport=44444 [ASSURED] mark=0 zone=1 use=2
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We see that TW connection was dropped in source vif’s zone (20).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Next, after one second TCP sends retry and connection in destination 
>>>>>> (server’s) zone is dropped and a new connection is created in source 
>>>>>> zone (client’s):
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mon Sep 13 14:34:41 MSK 2021
>>>>>> ipv4     2 tcp      6 120 SYN_SENT src=172.31.0.18 dst=172.31.0.17 
>>>>>> sport=44444 dport=80 [UNREPLIED] src=172.31.0.17 dst=172.31.0.18 
>>>>>> sport=80 dport=44444 mark=0 zone=20 use=2
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Server VM still didn’t get this SYN packet. It got dropped.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Then, after 2 seconds TCP sends retry again and connection is working 
>>>>>> well:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mon Sep 13 14:34:44 MSK 2021
>>>>>> ipv4     2 tcp      6 59 CLOSE_WAIT src=172.31.0.18 dst=172.31.0.17 
>>>>>> sport=44444 dport=80 src=172.31.0.17 dst=172.31.0.18 sport=80 
>>>>>> dport=44444 [ASSURED] mark=0 zone=1 use=2
>>>>>> ipv4     2 tcp      6 59 CLOSE_WAIT src=172.31.0.18 dst=172.31.0.17 
>>>>>> sport=44444 dport=80 src=172.31.0.17 dst=172.31.0.18 sport=80 
>>>>>> dport=44444 [ASSURED] mark=0 zone=20 use=2
>>>>>> Mon Sep 13 14:34:44 MSK 2021
>>>>>> ipv4     2 tcp      6 119 TIME_WAIT src=172.31.0.18 dst=172.31.0.17 
>>>>>> sport=44444 dport=80 src=172.31.0.17 dst=172.31.0.18 sport=80 
>>>>>> dport=44444 [ASSURED] mark=0 zone=1 use=2
>>>>>> ipv4     2 tcp      6 119 TIME_WAIT src=172.31.0.18 dst=172.31.0.17 
>>>>>> sport=44444 dport=80 src=172.31.0.17 dst=172.31.0.18 sport=80 
>>>>>> dport=44444 [ASSURED] mark=0 zone=20 use=2
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I guess, that it could happen:
>>>>>> 1. Run curl with an empty conntrack zones. Everything is good, we’ve got 
>>>>>> http response, closed the connection. There’s one TW entry in client’s 
>>>>>> and one in server’s zonntrack zones.
>>>>>> 2. Run curl with same source port within nf_conntrack_time_wait_timeout 
>>>>>> seconds.
>>>>>> 2.1. OVS gets packet from VM, sends it to client’s conntrack zone=20. It 
>>>>>> matches pre-existed conntrack entry in tw state from previous curl run. 
>>>>>> TW connection in conntrack is deleted. A copy of a packet is returned to 
>>>>>> OVS and recirculated packet has ct.inv (?) and !ct.trk states and got 
>>>>>> dropped (I’m NOT sure, it’s just an assumption!)
>>>>>> 3. After one second client VM resends TCP SYN.
>>>>>> 3.1. OVS gets packet, sends through client’s conntrack zone=20, a new 
>>>>>> connection is added, packet has ct.trk and ct.new states set. Packet 
>>>>>> goes to recirculation.
>>>>>> 3.2. OVS sends packet to server’s conntrack zone=1. It matches 
>>>>>> pre-existed conntrack entry in tw state from previous run. Conntrack 
>>>>>> removes this entry. Packet is returned to OVS with ct.inv (?) and 
>>>>>> !ct.trk. Packet got dropped.
>>>>>> 4. Client’s VM again sends TCP SYN after 2 more seconds left.
>>>>>> 4.1 OVS gets packet from client’s VIF, sends to client’s conntrack 
>>>>>> zone=20, it matches pre-existed SYN_SENT conntrack entry state, packets 
>>>>>> is returned to OVS with ct.new, ct.trk flags set.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 4.2 OVS sends packet to server’s conntrack zone=1. Conntrack table for 
>>>>>> zone=1 is empty, it adds new entry, returns packet to OVS with ct.trk 
>>>>>> and ct.new flags set.
>>>>>> 4.3 OVS sends packet to server’s VIF, next traffic operates normally.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So, with such behaviour connection establishment sometimes takes up to 
>>>>>> three seconds (2 TCP SYN retries) and makes troubles in overlay 
>>>>>> services. (Application timeouts and service outages).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’ve checked how conntrack works inside VMs with such traffic and it 
>>>>>> looks like if conntrack gets a packet within a TW connection it 
>>>>>> recreates a new conntrack entry. No tuning inside VMs was performed. As 
>>>>>> a server I used apache with default config from CentOS distribution.
>>> 
>>> I don't have a centos 7 at hand but I do have a rhel 7
>>> (3.10.0-1160.36.2.el7.x86_64) and I didn't manage to hit the issue you
>>> reported here (using OVS and OVN upstream master).  The SYN matching the
>>> conntrack entry in state TIME_WAIT moves the entry to NEW and seems to
>>> be forwarded just fine, the session afterwards go to ESTABLISHED.
>>> 
>>> Wed Sep 15 04:18:35 AM EDT 2021
>>> conntrack v1.4.5 (conntrack-tools): 7 flow entries have been shown.
>>> tcp      6 431930 ESTABLISHED src=42.42.42.2 dst=42.42.42.3 sport=4141
>>> dport=4242 src=42.42.42.3 dst=42.42.42.2 sport=4242 dport=4141 [ASSURED]
>>> mark=0 secctx=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 zone=6 use=1
>>> tcp      6 431930 ESTABLISHED src=42.42.42.2 dst=42.42.42.3 sport=4141
>>> dport=4242 src=42.42.42.3 dst=42.42.42.2 sport=4242 dport=4141 [ASSURED]
>>> mark=0 secctx=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 zone=3 use=1
>>> --
>>> Wed Sep 15 04:18:36 AM EDT 2021
>>> conntrack v1.4.5 (conntrack-tools): 7 flow entries have been shown.
>>> tcp      6 119 TIME_WAIT src=42.42.42.2 dst=42.42.42.3 sport=4141
>>> dport=4242 src=42.42.42.3 dst=42.42.42.2 sport=4242 dport=4141 [ASSURED]
>>> mark=0 secctx=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 zone=6 use=1
>>> tcp      6 119 TIME_WAIT src=42.42.42.2 dst=42.42.42.3 sport=4141
>>> dport=4242 src=42.42.42.3 dst=42.42.42.2 sport=4242 dport=4141 [ASSURED]
>>> mark=0 secctx=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 zone=3 use=1
>>> --
>>> Wed Sep 15 04:18:38 AM EDT 2021
>>> conntrack v1.4.5 (conntrack-tools): 7 flow entries have been shown.
>>> tcp      6 431999 ESTABLISHED src=42.42.42.2 dst=42.42.42.3 sport=4141
>>> dport=4242 src=42.42.42.3 dst=42.42.42.2 sport=4242 dport=4141 [ASSURED]
>>> mark=0 secctx=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 zone=6 use=1
>>> tcp      6 431999 ESTABLISHED src=42.42.42.2 dst=42.42.42.3 sport=4141
>>> dport=4242 src=42.42.42.3 dst=42.42.42.2 sport=4242 dport=4141 [ASSURED]
>>> mark=0 secctx=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 zone=3 use=1
>>> --
>>> 
>>> DP flows just after the second session is initiated also seem to confirm
>>> that everything is fine:
>>> 
>>> # ovs-appctl dpctl/dump-flows | grep -oE "ct_state(.*),ct_label"
>>> ct_state(+new-est-rel-rpl-inv+trk),ct_label
>>> ct_state(-new+est-rel-rpl-inv+trk),ct_label
>>> ct_state(-new+est-rel+rpl-inv+trk),ct_label
>>> ct_state(+new-est-rel-rpl-inv+trk),ct_label
>>> ct_state(-new+est-rel+rpl-inv+trk),ct_label
>>> ct_state(-new+est-rel-rpl-inv+trk),ct_label
>>> 
>>> I also tried it out on a Fedora 34 with 5.13.14-200.fc34.x86_64, still
>>> works fine.
>>> 
>>> What kernel and openvswitch module versions do you use?
>>> 
>> On my box there is CentOS 7.5 with kernel 3.10.0-862.14.4.el7 and OOT kernel 
>> module.
>> I’ve tested two versions, in both the problem was hit:
>> openvswitch-kmod-2.13.4-1.el7_5.x86_64
>> openvswitch-kmod-2.16.0-1.el7_5.x86_64
>> 
>> Do you think the problem could be related to kernel (conntrack) and kernel 
>> must be upgraded here?
>> Or, maybe I should try master OVS, as you did?
> 
> I just tried with OVS v2.13.4, OVN master and it all worked fine (both
> on Fedora 34 and rhel 7).  I don't think the problem is in user space.
> 
> Regards,
> Dumitru
> 
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