On 9/21/21 1:33 PM, Vladislav Odintsov wrote:
> Hi Dumitru,

Hi Vladislav,

> 
> are you talking about any specific _mising_ patch?

No, sorry for the confusion.  I just meant there's a bug in the OOT
module that was probably already fixed in the in-tree one so, likely,
one would have to figure out the patch that fixed it.

> 
> Regards,
> Vladislav Odintsov

Regards,
Dumitru

> 
>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 19:09, Dumitru Ceara <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On 9/16/21 4:18 PM, Vladislav Odintsov wrote:
>>> Sorry, by OOT I meant non-inbox kmod.
>>> I’ve tried to use inbox kernel module (from kernel package) and problem 
>>> resolved.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Vladislav Odintsov
>>>
>>>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 17:17, Vladislav Odintsov <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Dumitru,
>>>>
>>>> I’ve tried to exclude OOT OVS kernel module.
>>>> With OVN 20.06.3 + OVS 2.13.4 the problem solved.
>>>>
>>>> Could you please try with OOT kmod? For me it looks like a bug in OOT OVS 
>>>> kernel module code.
>>
>> You're right, this seems to be a missing patch in the OOT openvswitch
>> module.  I could replicate the problem you reported with the OOT module.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dumitru
>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Vladislav Odintsov
>>>>
>>>>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 11:02, Dumitru Ceara <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/16/21 2:50 AM, Vladislav Odintsov wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Dumitru,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks for your reply.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Vladislav Odintsov
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 15 Sep 2021, at 11:24, Dumitru Ceara <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Vladislav,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/13/21 6:14 PM, Vladislav Odintsov wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Numan,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I’ve checked with OVS 2.16.0 and OVN master. The problem persists.
>>>>>>>> Symptoms are the same.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> # grep ct_zero_snat /var/log/openvswitch/ovs-vswitchd.log
>>>>>>>> 2021-09-13T16:10:01.792Z|00019|ofproto_dpif|INFO|system@ovs-system: 
>>>>>>>> Datapath supports ct_zero_snat
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This shouldn't be related to the problem we fixed with ct_zero_snat.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Vladislav Odintsov
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 13 Sep 2021, at 17:54, Numan Siddique <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 8:10 AM Vladislav Odintsov <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> we’ve encountered a next problem with stateful ACLs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Suppose, we have one logical switch (ls1) and attached to it a VIF 
>>>>>>>>>> type logical ports (lsp1, lsp2).
>>>>>>>>>> Each logical port has a linux VM besides it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Logical ports reside in port group (pg1) and two ACLs are created 
>>>>>>>>>> within this PG:
>>>>>>>>>> to-lport outport == @pg1 && ip4 && ip4.dst == 0.0.0.0/0 allow-related
>>>>>>>>>> from-lport outport == @pg1 && ip4 && ip4.src == 0.0.0.0/0 
>>>>>>>>>> allow-related
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When we have a high-connection rate service between VMs, the tcp 
>>>>>>>>>> source/dest ports may be reused before the connection is deleted 
>>>>>>>>>> from LSP’s-related conntrack zones on the host.
>>>>>>>>>> Let’s use curl with passing --local-port argument to have each time 
>>>>>>>>>> same source port.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Run it from VM to another VM (172.31.0.18 -> 172.31.0.17):
>>>>>>>>>> curl --local-port 44444 http://172.31.0.17/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Check connections in client’s and server’s vif zones (client - 
>>>>>>>>>> zone=20, server - zone=1):
>>>>>>>>>> run while true script to check connections state per-second, while 
>>>>>>>>>> running new connection with same source/dest 5-tuple:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> while true; do date; grep -e 'zone=1 ' -e zone=20 
>>>>>>>>>> /proc/net/nf_conntrack; sleep 0.2; done
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Right after we’ve succesfully run curl, the connection is getting 
>>>>>>>>>> time-closed and next time-wait states:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mon Sep 13 14:34:39 MSK 2021
>>>>>>>>>> ipv4     2 tcp      6 59 CLOSE_WAIT src=172.31.0.18 dst=172.31.0.17 
>>>>>>>>>> sport=44444 dport=80 src=172.31.0.17 dst=172.31.0.18 sport=80 
>>>>>>>>>> dport=44444 [ASSURED] mark=0 zone=1 use=2
>>>>>>>>>> ipv4     2 tcp      6 59 CLOSE_WAIT src=172.31.0.18 dst=172.31.0.17 
>>>>>>>>>> sport=44444 dport=80 src=172.31.0.17 dst=172.31.0.18 sport=80 
>>>>>>>>>> dport=44444 [ASSURED] mark=0 zone=20 use=2
>>>>>>>>>> Mon Sep 13 14:34:39 MSK 2021
>>>>>>>>>> ipv4     2 tcp      6 119 TIME_WAIT src=172.31.0.18 dst=172.31.0.17 
>>>>>>>>>> sport=44444 dport=80 src=172.31.0.17 dst=172.31.0.18 sport=80 
>>>>>>>>>> dport=44444 [ASSURED] mark=0 zone=1 use=2
>>>>>>>>>> ipv4     2 tcp      6 119 TIME_WAIT src=172.31.0.18 dst=172.31.0.17 
>>>>>>>>>> sport=44444 dport=80 src=172.31.0.17 dst=172.31.0.18 sport=80 
>>>>>>>>>> dport=44444 [ASSURED] mark=0 zone=20 use=2
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And it remains in time-wait state for nf_conntrack_time_wait_timeout 
>>>>>>>>>> (120 seconds for centos 7).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Everything is okay for now.
>>>>>>>>>> While we have installed connections in TW state in zone 1 and 20, 
>>>>>>>>>> lets run this curl (source port 44444) again:
>>>>>>>>>> 1st SYN packet is lost. It didn’t get to destination VM. In 
>>>>>>>>>> conntrack we have:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mon Sep 13 14:34:41 MSK 2021
>>>>>>>>>> ipv4     2 tcp      6 118 TIME_WAIT src=172.31.0.18 dst=172.31.0.17 
>>>>>>>>>> sport=44444 dport=80 src=172.31.0.17 dst=172.31.0.18 sport=80 
>>>>>>>>>> dport=44444 [ASSURED] mark=0 zone=1 use=2
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We see that TW connection was dropped in source vif’s zone (20).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Next, after one second TCP sends retry and connection in destination 
>>>>>>>>>> (server’s) zone is dropped and a new connection is created in source 
>>>>>>>>>> zone (client’s):
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mon Sep 13 14:34:41 MSK 2021
>>>>>>>>>> ipv4     2 tcp      6 120 SYN_SENT src=172.31.0.18 dst=172.31.0.17 
>>>>>>>>>> sport=44444 dport=80 [UNREPLIED] src=172.31.0.17 dst=172.31.0.18 
>>>>>>>>>> sport=80 dport=44444 mark=0 zone=20 use=2
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Server VM still didn’t get this SYN packet. It got dropped.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Then, after 2 seconds TCP sends retry again and connection is 
>>>>>>>>>> working well:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mon Sep 13 14:34:44 MSK 2021
>>>>>>>>>> ipv4     2 tcp      6 59 CLOSE_WAIT src=172.31.0.18 dst=172.31.0.17 
>>>>>>>>>> sport=44444 dport=80 src=172.31.0.17 dst=172.31.0.18 sport=80 
>>>>>>>>>> dport=44444 [ASSURED] mark=0 zone=1 use=2
>>>>>>>>>> ipv4     2 tcp      6 59 CLOSE_WAIT src=172.31.0.18 dst=172.31.0.17 
>>>>>>>>>> sport=44444 dport=80 src=172.31.0.17 dst=172.31.0.18 sport=80 
>>>>>>>>>> dport=44444 [ASSURED] mark=0 zone=20 use=2
>>>>>>>>>> Mon Sep 13 14:34:44 MSK 2021
>>>>>>>>>> ipv4     2 tcp      6 119 TIME_WAIT src=172.31.0.18 dst=172.31.0.17 
>>>>>>>>>> sport=44444 dport=80 src=172.31.0.17 dst=172.31.0.18 sport=80 
>>>>>>>>>> dport=44444 [ASSURED] mark=0 zone=1 use=2
>>>>>>>>>> ipv4     2 tcp      6 119 TIME_WAIT src=172.31.0.18 dst=172.31.0.17 
>>>>>>>>>> sport=44444 dport=80 src=172.31.0.17 dst=172.31.0.18 sport=80 
>>>>>>>>>> dport=44444 [ASSURED] mark=0 zone=20 use=2
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I guess, that it could happen:
>>>>>>>>>> 1. Run curl with an empty conntrack zones. Everything is good, we’ve 
>>>>>>>>>> got http response, closed the connection. There’s one TW entry in 
>>>>>>>>>> client’s and one in server’s zonntrack zones.
>>>>>>>>>> 2. Run curl with same source port within 
>>>>>>>>>> nf_conntrack_time_wait_timeout seconds.
>>>>>>>>>> 2.1. OVS gets packet from VM, sends it to client’s conntrack 
>>>>>>>>>> zone=20. It matches pre-existed conntrack entry in tw state from 
>>>>>>>>>> previous curl run. TW connection in conntrack is deleted. A copy of 
>>>>>>>>>> a packet is returned to OVS and recirculated packet has ct.inv (?) 
>>>>>>>>>> and !ct.trk states and got dropped (I’m NOT sure, it’s just an 
>>>>>>>>>> assumption!)
>>>>>>>>>> 3. After one second client VM resends TCP SYN.
>>>>>>>>>> 3.1. OVS gets packet, sends through client’s conntrack zone=20, a 
>>>>>>>>>> new connection is added, packet has ct.trk and ct.new states set. 
>>>>>>>>>> Packet goes to recirculation.
>>>>>>>>>> 3.2. OVS sends packet to server’s conntrack zone=1. It matches 
>>>>>>>>>> pre-existed conntrack entry in tw state from previous run. Conntrack 
>>>>>>>>>> removes this entry. Packet is returned to OVS with ct.inv (?) and 
>>>>>>>>>> !ct.trk. Packet got dropped.
>>>>>>>>>> 4. Client’s VM again sends TCP SYN after 2 more seconds left.
>>>>>>>>>> 4.1 OVS gets packet from client’s VIF, sends to client’s conntrack 
>>>>>>>>>> zone=20, it matches pre-existed SYN_SENT conntrack entry state, 
>>>>>>>>>> packets is returned to OVS with ct.new, ct.trk flags set.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 4.2 OVS sends packet to server’s conntrack zone=1. Conntrack table 
>>>>>>>>>> for zone=1 is empty, it adds new entry, returns packet to OVS with 
>>>>>>>>>> ct.trk and ct.new flags set.
>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 OVS sends packet to server’s VIF, next traffic operates normally.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So, with such behaviour connection establishment sometimes takes up 
>>>>>>>>>> to three seconds (2 TCP SYN retries) and makes troubles in overlay 
>>>>>>>>>> services. (Application timeouts and service outages).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I’ve checked how conntrack works inside VMs with such traffic and it 
>>>>>>>>>> looks like if conntrack gets a packet within a TW connection it 
>>>>>>>>>> recreates a new conntrack entry. No tuning inside VMs was performed. 
>>>>>>>>>> As a server I used apache with default config from CentOS 
>>>>>>>>>> distribution.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't have a centos 7 at hand but I do have a rhel 7
>>>>>>> (3.10.0-1160.36.2.el7.x86_64) and I didn't manage to hit the issue you
>>>>>>> reported here (using OVS and OVN upstream master).  The SYN matching the
>>>>>>> conntrack entry in state TIME_WAIT moves the entry to NEW and seems to
>>>>>>> be forwarded just fine, the session afterwards go to ESTABLISHED.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wed Sep 15 04:18:35 AM EDT 2021
>>>>>>> conntrack v1.4.5 (conntrack-tools): 7 flow entries have been shown.
>>>>>>> tcp      6 431930 ESTABLISHED src=42.42.42.2 dst=42.42.42.3 sport=4141
>>>>>>> dport=4242 src=42.42.42.3 dst=42.42.42.2 sport=4242 dport=4141 [ASSURED]
>>>>>>> mark=0 secctx=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 zone=6 use=1
>>>>>>> tcp      6 431930 ESTABLISHED src=42.42.42.2 dst=42.42.42.3 sport=4141
>>>>>>> dport=4242 src=42.42.42.3 dst=42.42.42.2 sport=4242 dport=4141 [ASSURED]
>>>>>>> mark=0 secctx=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 zone=3 use=1
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Wed Sep 15 04:18:36 AM EDT 2021
>>>>>>> conntrack v1.4.5 (conntrack-tools): 7 flow entries have been shown.
>>>>>>> tcp      6 119 TIME_WAIT src=42.42.42.2 dst=42.42.42.3 sport=4141
>>>>>>> dport=4242 src=42.42.42.3 dst=42.42.42.2 sport=4242 dport=4141 [ASSURED]
>>>>>>> mark=0 secctx=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 zone=6 use=1
>>>>>>> tcp      6 119 TIME_WAIT src=42.42.42.2 dst=42.42.42.3 sport=4141
>>>>>>> dport=4242 src=42.42.42.3 dst=42.42.42.2 sport=4242 dport=4141 [ASSURED]
>>>>>>> mark=0 secctx=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 zone=3 use=1
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Wed Sep 15 04:18:38 AM EDT 2021
>>>>>>> conntrack v1.4.5 (conntrack-tools): 7 flow entries have been shown.
>>>>>>> tcp      6 431999 ESTABLISHED src=42.42.42.2 dst=42.42.42.3 sport=4141
>>>>>>> dport=4242 src=42.42.42.3 dst=42.42.42.2 sport=4242 dport=4141 [ASSURED]
>>>>>>> mark=0 secctx=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 zone=6 use=1
>>>>>>> tcp      6 431999 ESTABLISHED src=42.42.42.2 dst=42.42.42.3 sport=4141
>>>>>>> dport=4242 src=42.42.42.3 dst=42.42.42.2 sport=4242 dport=4141 [ASSURED]
>>>>>>> mark=0 secctx=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 zone=3 use=1
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DP flows just after the second session is initiated also seem to confirm
>>>>>>> that everything is fine:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> # ovs-appctl dpctl/dump-flows | grep -oE "ct_state(.*),ct_label"
>>>>>>> ct_state(+new-est-rel-rpl-inv+trk),ct_label
>>>>>>> ct_state(-new+est-rel-rpl-inv+trk),ct_label
>>>>>>> ct_state(-new+est-rel+rpl-inv+trk),ct_label
>>>>>>> ct_state(+new-est-rel-rpl-inv+trk),ct_label
>>>>>>> ct_state(-new+est-rel+rpl-inv+trk),ct_label
>>>>>>> ct_state(-new+est-rel-rpl-inv+trk),ct_label
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also tried it out on a Fedora 34 with 5.13.14-200.fc34.x86_64, still
>>>>>>> works fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What kernel and openvswitch module versions do you use?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> On my box there is CentOS 7.5 with kernel 3.10.0-862.14.4.el7 and OOT 
>>>>>> kernel module.
>>>>>> I’ve tested two versions, in both the problem was hit:
>>>>>> openvswitch-kmod-2.13.4-1.el7_5.x86_64
>>>>>> openvswitch-kmod-2.16.0-1.el7_5.x86_64
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you think the problem could be related to kernel (conntrack) and 
>>>>>> kernel must be upgraded here?
>>>>>> Or, maybe I should try master OVS, as you did?
>>>>>
>>>>> I just tried with OVS v2.13.4, OVN master and it all worked fine (both
>>>>> on Fedora 34 and rhel 7).  I don't think the problem is in user space.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dumitru
>>>>>
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