On 7/8/22 21:54, Ben Pfaff wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 12:00 PM Ilya Maximets <i.maxim...@ovn.org 
> <mailto:i.maxim...@ovn.org>> wrote:
> 
>     On 7/8/22 17:37, Ben Pfaff wrote:
>     > On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 1:53 AM David Marchand 
> <david.march...@redhat.com <mailto:david.march...@redhat.com> 
> <mailto:david.march...@redhat.com <mailto:david.march...@redhat.com>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 11:21 PM Gregory Rose <gvrose8...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:gvrose8...@gmail.com> <mailto:gvrose8...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:gvrose8...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>     >     > > xenserver/openvswitch-xen.spec.in 
> <http://openvswitch-xen.spec.in> <http://openvswitch-xen.spec.in 
> <http://openvswitch-xen.spec.in>>
>     >     >
>     >     > This is a bit of an issue.  Does anyone even use xenserver 
> anymore?
>     >     > All of the documentation and build instructions are really old and
>     >     > I wonder of they work anymore.   I have no xenserver  build 
> environment
>     >     > to  test  any changes.
>     >
>     >     Same for me.
>     >
>     >     Ben, Ilya, do you know if this xenserver packaging still has users?
>     >     The last comment about it was in 2017.
>     >     fefb757ce408 ("debian, xenserver: Update logrotate config to match 
> RHEL.")
>     >
>     >     Should we keep on updating it? or can we simply drop support for
>     >     xenserver packaging?
>     >
>     > I'd be inclined to drop it. I have heard so little about xenserver (or 
> XCP, which
>     > I think is its successor) over the last few years. It makes me a bit 
> sad, since
>     > that's where Open vSwitch started out (in a few cases I literally had to
>     > disassemble bits of its binaries to understand what was going on), but 
> the
>     > world moves on.
> 
>     It seems like there is a newer open-source XCP-ng project that is
>     more or less active.  There is also proprietary Citrix Hypervisor,
>     of course.  Both seems to have OVS as a default networking solution
>     and both seems to use some version of OVS 2.5.3.  Here is a repo
>     for XCP-ng one:
>       https://github.com/xcp-ng-rpms/openvswitch 
> <https://github.com/xcp-ng-rpms/openvswitch>
> 
>     They are not using our spec file though.  And have some custom
>     patches on top.  Not sure about Citrix Hypervisor, but I found some
>     more or less recent security hotfixes referencing openvswitch package
>     like this one:
>       
> https://support.citrix.com/article/CTX306423/hotfix-xs82e022-for-citrix-hypervisor-82
>  
> <https://support.citrix.com/article/CTX306423/hotfix-xs82e022-for-citrix-hypervisor-82>
> 
>     So, yes, someone is still using it, but they are using about 5 year
>     old version at this point and they are not using upstream spec file
> 
> 
> I guess they're not really using anything we're working on now. I think
> this still supports dropping it. I'm sure we'd welcome them back if they
> asked.

Agreed.
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