On 12/12/22 17:17, Frode Nordahl wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 2:55 PM Frode Nordahl
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 12:20 PM Ilya Maximets <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12/12/22 09:40, Eelco Chaudron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10 Dec 2022, at 3:16, Ilya Maximets wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This patch set allows OVS to build with libxdp and newer libbpf.
>>>>> It also enables AF_XDP support by default as long as all the
>>>>> dependencies are available.
>>>>
>>>> Hi Ilya,
>>>>
>>>> I did not yet review the patch, but I do not like enabling AF_XPD support 
>>>> by default for the following reasons:
>>>
>>> Hi, Eelco.  Thanks for taking a look!
>>>
>>>>
>>>> - I still believe AF_XDP support in OVS has not had many field trials,
>>>>   so I would still classify this as an “experimental” feature.
>>>
>>> This patch set doesn't make the feature non-experimental.
>>> There is still a warning about that in the documentation.
>>> See the patch 3/6.
>>>
>>> In general, we do build a lot of experimental features by
>>> default and users can enable these features.  For example,
>>> some PMD management features, userspace TSO or AVX512 support.
>>>
>>> Enabling the build may increase the number of field trials
>>> performed by enthusiastic users, so should have some
>>> positive impact on development in general.  I've seen an
>>> increased interest in trying out this feature recently.
>>> Also, the feature doesn't impact existing users, they still
>>> need to explicitly create ports of afxdp type in order to
>>> use them.  The code is pretty much independent from other
>>> parts of OVS.
>>>
>>>> - Reversing build option logic might cause problems for distributions>   
>>>> (or at least require people to think, as now they have to explicitly 
>>>> disable it).
>>>
>>> This is true for every other feature.  And I added an explicit
>>> disabling for Debian and Fedora packaging in the patch 3/6.
>>> In general, distributions should not blindly take every
>>> new release without checking the NEWS anyway.
>>
>> fwiw; we have interest in AF_XDP too and I'm currently evaluating if
>> we have the bits aligned to enable this by default in Debian too.
>>
>> One challenge is that in Debian libbpf 0.8 is a compatibility package
>> and the development package is only available as a 1.x, and at the
>> same time xdp-tools is linked with libbpf 0.8. So when building OVS it
>> will try to link with both libbpf 0.8 via libxdp and libbpf 1.x, which
>> I think may be preventing this from working right now.
>>
>> That is our problem to sort though, and we have no issue with having
>> this important feature be enabled by default in the upstream build
>> system.
> 
> ftr; This was already sorted in Debian, I was using an out of date system.
> 
> With that fixed, it does appear that OVS or xdp-tools may need an
> update to work with libbpf 1.x:
> 2022-12-12T16:01:32.800Z|00067|netdev_afxdp|WARN|libbpf: prog
> 'xdp_dispatcher': missing BPF prog type, check ELF section name
> 'xdp/dispatcher'
> 2022-12-12T16:01:32.800Z|00068|netdev_afxdp|WARN|libbpf: prog
> 'xdp_dispatcher': failed to load: -22
> 

Hmm.  OVS doesn't load xdp programs on its own, it relies on libbpf
to load a default program.

BTW, are you testing with the second patch of this patch set applied?
Otherwise, OVS will use some deprecated APIs that might be broken.

Best regards, Ilya Maximets.
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