Hi all,

On 9/22/23 09:19, Frode Nordahl wrote:
> Hello Dumitru and Team,
> 
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 5:25 PM Dumitru Ceara <dce...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> As you probably know and as the ovn.org website mentions [0] we have
>> weekly OVN IRC meetings, in #openvswitch on irc.libera.chat (the time is
>> slightly wrong but that's a different issue [1]).
>>
>> In my opinion these meetings are useful because we (well, anyone
>> interested) can share status updates about what they currently work on
>> in the OVN world.
> 
> The weekly IRC meetings are indeed valuable, they are very useful for
> coordinating ongoing community activities and highlighting/discussing
> any issues that are not obvious across company barriers on a day to
> day basis.
> 
>> I wonder however if it would make sense to have an alternative technical
>> meeting (it doesn't necessarily have to replace the weekly IRC one but
>> it may) where slightly more in depth technical discussion can happen.
>> I'm thinking of this as an optional first step that might happen before
>> posting the first (RFC) version of a feature, for example.  Or as a
>> place where objectives for a new LTS can be defined from a community
>> perspective.
>>
>> At the same time I wonder if such a meeting would be more effective if a
>> different communication medium would be used (e.g., an online video
>> conference system).
>>
>> In short, would a monthly (audio/video) technical community meeting
>> sound like an interesting idea to you?
> 
> Thank you for bringing this up. My immediate reaction is positive, an
> audio/video meeting would carry more bandwidth for exchanging thoughts
> and ideas on any topic discussed. If we manage to create a safe space
> for bouncing not necessarily fully thought through ideas off each
> other, it could be quite powerful.
> 
> I'm wondering a bit about the cadence though, IIUC the examples of
> potential topics to discuss fall into the planning ahead category.
> Would it perhaps make sense to have these meetings before the start of
> each development cycle, i.e. a set of meetings every 6 months or so,
> perhaps with touch points in between?
> 

I'm going to try to summarize the points/concerns that were raised
so far in this email thread and during the IRC meetings.  Please
do correct me if I missed or mis-interpreted something.

- there seems to be positive reaction from the community to the
  proposal of having an occasional A/V technical community
  meeting.

- there's a request to not replace the IRC weekly (that should
  stay weekly and be used for informal status updates).

- the cadence of this new community meeting is not yet agreed
  upon:
  - there were a few suggestions to have a monthly meeting
    with a pre-defined agenda and with the option of
    cancelling the meeting if there's not enough to talk
    about.
  - an alternative would be to have these technical meetings
    at the beginning of each development cycle (every ~6 months)
    with an option of ad-hoc touching points in between.

- there was a suggestion of recording the meetings and posting
  the recordings to ovn.org.  Personally I'm not sure I'd favor
  that; the reason being that I think it might cause people to
  be more reluctant to join.  I'm OK either way though.  Related
  to this point, there was a suggestion to take and share
  meeting notes.

- we briefly discussed about the medium to use and, at least
  during the IRC meeting, it seemed like Google Meet would
  be an OK option for now.

With all this in mind and (luckily) because we're at the
beginning of the 24.03 development cycle, my suggestion
would be to schedule a first community A/V technical meeting
with two agenda items:

1. What new features or relevant changes does the community
   think are important to have in the next release (24.03.0)?
2. Decide on a cadence for the technical meetings.

Here are some proposals for dates and times for a first
meeting.  Please reply with a list of what works best for
you, preferably best options first.  Alternative suggestions
are also fine.

Monday  October 23rd 3PM UTC /  8PM PDT
Tuesday October 24th 3PM UTC /  8PM PDT
Monday  October 23rd 7PM UTC / 12PM PDT
Monday  October 30th 3PM UTC /  8PM PDT (this is just before the ovn-k8s 
community meeting)

I can share a Google Meet invite link as soon as we agree
on the best time for this first meeting.  We can decide
about recording the meeting/taking notes on the spot in
the beginning of the meeting.

Thanks,
Dumitru

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