On 10/5/23 19:31, Dumitru Ceara wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> On 9/22/23 09:19, Frode Nordahl wrote:
>> Hello Dumitru and Team,
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 5:25 PM Dumitru Ceara <dce...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> As you probably know and as the ovn.org website mentions [0] we have
>>> weekly OVN IRC meetings, in #openvswitch on irc.libera.chat (the time is
>>> slightly wrong but that's a different issue [1]).
>>>
>>> In my opinion these meetings are useful because we (well, anyone
>>> interested) can share status updates about what they currently work on
>>> in the OVN world.
>>
>> The weekly IRC meetings are indeed valuable, they are very useful for
>> coordinating ongoing community activities and highlighting/discussing
>> any issues that are not obvious across company barriers on a day to
>> day basis.
>>
>>> I wonder however if it would make sense to have an alternative technical
>>> meeting (it doesn't necessarily have to replace the weekly IRC one but
>>> it may) where slightly more in depth technical discussion can happen.
>>> I'm thinking of this as an optional first step that might happen before
>>> posting the first (RFC) version of a feature, for example.  Or as a
>>> place where objectives for a new LTS can be defined from a community
>>> perspective.
>>>
>>> At the same time I wonder if such a meeting would be more effective if a
>>> different communication medium would be used (e.g., an online video
>>> conference system).
>>>
>>> In short, would a monthly (audio/video) technical community meeting
>>> sound like an interesting idea to you?
>>
>> Thank you for bringing this up. My immediate reaction is positive, an
>> audio/video meeting would carry more bandwidth for exchanging thoughts
>> and ideas on any topic discussed. If we manage to create a safe space
>> for bouncing not necessarily fully thought through ideas off each
>> other, it could be quite powerful.
>>
>> I'm wondering a bit about the cadence though, IIUC the examples of
>> potential topics to discuss fall into the planning ahead category.
>> Would it perhaps make sense to have these meetings before the start of
>> each development cycle, i.e. a set of meetings every 6 months or so,
>> perhaps with touch points in between?
>>
> 
> I'm going to try to summarize the points/concerns that were raised
> so far in this email thread and during the IRC meetings.  Please
> do correct me if I missed or mis-interpreted something.
> 
> - there seems to be positive reaction from the community to the
>   proposal of having an occasional A/V technical community
>   meeting.
> 
> - there's a request to not replace the IRC weekly (that should
>   stay weekly and be used for informal status updates).
> 
> - the cadence of this new community meeting is not yet agreed
>   upon:
>   - there were a few suggestions to have a monthly meeting
>     with a pre-defined agenda and with the option of
>     cancelling the meeting if there's not enough to talk
>     about.
>   - an alternative would be to have these technical meetings
>     at the beginning of each development cycle (every ~6 months)
>     with an option of ad-hoc touching points in between.
> 
> - there was a suggestion of recording the meetings and posting
>   the recordings to ovn.org.  Personally I'm not sure I'd favor
>   that; the reason being that I think it might cause people to
>   be more reluctant to join.  I'm OK either way though.  Related
>   to this point, there was a suggestion to take and share
>   meeting notes.
> 
> - we briefly discussed about the medium to use and, at least
>   during the IRC meeting, it seemed like Google Meet would
>   be an OK option for now.
> 
> With all this in mind and (luckily) because we're at the
> beginning of the 24.03 development cycle, my suggestion
> would be to schedule a first community A/V technical meeting
> with two agenda items:
> 
> 1. What new features or relevant changes does the community
>    think are important to have in the next release (24.03.0)?
> 2. Decide on a cadence for the technical meetings.
> 
> Here are some proposals for dates and times for a first
> meeting.  Please reply with a list of what works best for
> you, preferably best options first.  Alternative suggestions
> are also fine.
> 
> Monday  October 23rd 3PM UTC /  8PM PDT
> Tuesday October 24th 3PM UTC /  8PM PDT
> Monday  October 23rd 7PM UTC / 12PM PDT
> Monday  October 30th 3PM UTC /  8PM PDT (this is just before the ovn-k8s 
> community meeting)

FWIW, 3PM UTC on any Monday sounds fine to me.

Monday 7PM is the second best, but not particularly desirable. :)
And I may have a conflict on Tuesdays on and off.

> 
> I can share a Google Meet invite link as soon as we agree
> on the best time for this first meeting.  We can decide
> about recording the meeting/taking notes on the spot in
> the beginning of the meeting.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dumitru
> 

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