Paul : I need to use some aliases because I wrote a little munin 
 plugin, and I think it's easier to have "CLIM 1", "CLIM 2", "FRONT BAY 
 1", "FRONT BAY 2" than have the sensors IDs.

 Eloy : In my munin plugin, this is how I work, I have an %alias array 
 which I use for displaying the name, but also I don't want to edit the 
 plugin code everytime I add a sensor. Also, as I'm not the only System 
 Administrator in my company, I try to search for the easier way to add 
 an alias to a sensor. I thought about a kind of a configuration file 
 containing the aliases, but I wanted to search more on the 1-wire side 
 than on the plugin side.

 This is why I thought the alias file would contain the alias for the 
 sensor. And I only use alias for displaying the name, not for polling, 
 because in the case a person gives the same alias to 2 sensors, this 
 might lead to a bigger problem.

 Thanks.



 On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 13:58:30 -0300, Roberto Spadim 
 <robe...@spadim.com.br> wrote:
> i was thinking about it:
> only case when alias add/delete/rename is usefull is when add a new
> sensor or replacing a damaged or move a sensor from a bedroom to
> another
>
> maybe we need three commands:
> add  = add alias to a sensor
> remove = remove alias from a sensor
> rename = change alias from a sensor (maybe add, and after delete,
> check that we need 2 or more alias per device)
> ideas -> maybe we can have 2 or more alias to same sensor, for 
> example
> we remove a bedroom sensor (temperature) because another sensor give
> the same value (maybe near sensor in a test) with this we could 
> rename
> alias without changing clients configuration (ownet or another 
> client)
>
> i think it is
> maybe a alias_file in root of owfs is nice to reload many sensors in
> one write like:
> echo new_alias > ow_fs_root/alias_file
>
> or read all alias
> cat ow_fs_root/alias_file > today_alias_file_backup
>
> nice?!
> i don't know if we will have problems with writing to alias_files
> (maybe we will have 1MB file! could owserver network protocol support
> it?)
>
> that's all
> 2011/3/31 Paul Alfille <paul.alfi...@gmail.com>:
>> Interesting string.
>>
>> I was concerned about the security implications of allowing alias 
>> writing.
>> Writing will rename objects and perhaps confuse data collection. 
>> There
>> really isn't a permissions system in OWFS.
>>
>> I've seen several suggestion:
>> 1. Be able to write to the "alias" property of any device.
>> 2. Reload from a changed alias file.
>> 3. Have an explicit "reload" command.
>>
>> Can you explain the use case for changeable alias names? That would
>> help us design the system.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Roberto Spadim 
>> <robe...@spadim.com.br> wrote:
>>> maybe write the file
>>>
>>> cat /new_aliast > /fuse_owfs/alias_file
>>>
>>> this could insert a new alias file to owfs
>>> or
>>>
>>> cat /fuse_owfs/alias_file
>>> to read the today alias references
>>>
>>> 2011/3/31 Roberto Spadim <robe...@spadim.com.br>:
>>>> if it don´t work for you, with not post a feature request?
>>>>
>>>> feature request:
>>>> add a option to reload alias file
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2011/3/31 Cyril LAVIER <clavier+owfs...@ltutech.com>:
>>>>> On 03/31/2011 05:43 PM, p4trykx wrote:
>>>>>> Dnia 31-03-2011 o 17:33:49 Cyril 
>>>>>> LAVIER<clavier+owfs...@ltutech.com>
>>>>>> napisał(a):>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I type the same commands as previously.
>>>>>> The you are doing it wrong. The alias file is not writable!!!
>>>>> As far as I know, I never yelled at you...
>>>>>> Answer this:
>>>>>> Did you read the link I gave you? 
>>>>>>  http://owfs.org/index.php?page=aliases
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You have to run owfs/owerver like this
>>>>>> owfs -a myaliases.txt -d /dev/ttyS0 -m /mnt/1wire
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I read it while I was searching for any clue.
>>>>>
>>>>> But this method doesn't convince me, as I don't want to restart 
>>>>> the
>>>>> owserver everything I add a sensor.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I will try to find another way to identify my sensors.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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