with filesystem it's just a symbolic link but at owserver isn't 2011/3/31 Roberto Spadim <robe...@spadim.com.br>: > i think yes > i didn't tested alias yet > what i see is: > a 'online' alias change, without restart owserver or umount/mount owfs > > the second is let's think that one sensor was being used to read a > bedroom temperature at bed, and another at floor > but the floor was broken > we could alias the bed temperature to floor temperature as a > `temporary` solution > this could be very nice :) > > 2011/3/31 Paul Alfille <paul.alfi...@gmail.com>: >> One thing I didn't mention in the 2.8p8 release notes is that there is >> a new "/settings/alias/list" that gives the sn=alias\n list. It should >> be in format suitable for an alias file. >> >> Probably writing a "" (zero length string) would remove an alias and >> writing an alias would add an alias. >> >> Are you sure we need multiple aliases for the same device? It adds >> some complexity. >> >> Paul Alfille >> >> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Roberto Spadim <robe...@spadim.com.br> >> wrote: >>> same alias for 2 sensor is a problem >>> 2 alias for 1 sensor isn't >>> >>> the problem of 2 alias for 1 sensor is syntax of alias file >>> XX.XXXXXXXX = alias1 alias2 >>> we should not have spaces, or another character to separate alias1 and 2 >>> an idea is character / since it's a directory character not alowed to >>> a file (owfs shouldn't use it), for example: >>> XX.XXXXXXXX = alias1/alias2 >>> >>> maybe this work >>> >>> 2011/3/31 Cyril Lavier <clavier+owfs...@ltutech.com>: >>>> Paul : I need to use some aliases because I wrote a little munin >>>> plugin, and I think it's easier to have "CLIM 1", "CLIM 2", "FRONT BAY >>>> 1", "FRONT BAY 2" than have the sensors IDs. >>>> >>>> Eloy : In my munin plugin, this is how I work, I have an %alias array >>>> which I use for displaying the name, but also I don't want to edit the >>>> plugin code everytime I add a sensor. Also, as I'm not the only System >>>> Administrator in my company, I try to search for the easier way to add >>>> an alias to a sensor. I thought about a kind of a configuration file >>>> containing the aliases, but I wanted to search more on the 1-wire side >>>> than on the plugin side. >>>> >>>> This is why I thought the alias file would contain the alias for the >>>> sensor. And I only use alias for displaying the name, not for polling, >>>> because in the case a person gives the same alias to 2 sensors, this >>>> might lead to a bigger problem. >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 13:58:30 -0300, Roberto Spadim >>>> <robe...@spadim.com.br> wrote: >>>>> i was thinking about it: >>>>> only case when alias add/delete/rename is usefull is when add a new >>>>> sensor or replacing a damaged or move a sensor from a bedroom to >>>>> another >>>>> >>>>> maybe we need three commands: >>>>> add = add alias to a sensor >>>>> remove = remove alias from a sensor >>>>> rename = change alias from a sensor (maybe add, and after delete, >>>>> check that we need 2 or more alias per device) >>>>> ideas -> maybe we can have 2 or more alias to same sensor, for >>>>> example >>>>> we remove a bedroom sensor (temperature) because another sensor give >>>>> the same value (maybe near sensor in a test) with this we could >>>>> rename >>>>> alias without changing clients configuration (ownet or another >>>>> client) >>>>> >>>>> i think it is >>>>> maybe a alias_file in root of owfs is nice to reload many sensors in >>>>> one write like: >>>>> echo new_alias > ow_fs_root/alias_file >>>>> >>>>> or read all alias >>>>> cat ow_fs_root/alias_file > today_alias_file_backup >>>>> >>>>> nice?! >>>>> i don't know if we will have problems with writing to alias_files >>>>> (maybe we will have 1MB file! could owserver network protocol support >>>>> it?) >>>>> >>>>> that's all >>>>> 2011/3/31 Paul Alfille <paul.alfi...@gmail.com>: >>>>>> Interesting string. >>>>>> >>>>>> I was concerned about the security implications of allowing alias >>>>>> writing. >>>>>> Writing will rename objects and perhaps confuse data collection. >>>>>> There >>>>>> really isn't a permissions system in OWFS. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've seen several suggestion: >>>>>> 1. Be able to write to the "alias" property of any device. >>>>>> 2. Reload from a changed alias file. >>>>>> 3. Have an explicit "reload" command. >>>>>> >>>>>> Can you explain the use case for changeable alias names? That would >>>>>> help us design the system. >>>>>> >>>>>> Paul >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Roberto Spadim >>>>>> <robe...@spadim.com.br> wrote: >>>>>>> maybe write the file >>>>>>> >>>>>>> cat /new_aliast > /fuse_owfs/alias_file >>>>>>> >>>>>>> this could insert a new alias file to owfs >>>>>>> or >>>>>>> >>>>>>> cat /fuse_owfs/alias_file >>>>>>> to read the today alias references >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2011/3/31 Roberto Spadim <robe...@spadim.com.br>: >>>>>>>> if it don´t work for you, with not post a feature request? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> feature request: >>>>>>>> add a option to reload alias file >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2011/3/31 Cyril LAVIER <clavier+owfs...@ltutech.com>: >>>>>>>>> On 03/31/2011 05:43 PM, p4trykx wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Dnia 31-03-2011 o 17:33:49 Cyril >>>>>>>>>> LAVIER<clavier+owfs...@ltutech.com> >>>>>>>>>> napisał(a):>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I type the same commands as previously. >>>>>>>>>> The you are doing it wrong. The alias file is not writable!!! >>>>>>>>> As far as I know, I never yelled at you... >>>>>>>>>> Answer this: >>>>>>>>>> Did you read the link I gave you? >>>>>>>>>> http://owfs.org/index.php?page=aliases >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You have to run owfs/owerver like this >>>>>>>>>> owfs -a myaliases.txt -d /dev/ttyS0 -m /mnt/1wire >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, I read it while I was searching for any clue. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But this method doesn't convince me, as I don't want to restart >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> owserver everything I add a sensor. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So I will try to find another way to identify my sensors. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> p4trykx >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>> Create and publish websites with WebMatrix >>>>>>>>>> Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; >>>>>>>>>> WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and >>>>>>>>>> publish your website. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Owfs-developers mailing list >>>>>>>>>> Owfs-developers@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/owfs-developers >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Cyril LAVIER | Systems Administrator | LTU Technologies >>>>>>>>> 132 Rue de Rivoli - 75001 Paris France >>>>>>>>> (tel) +33 (0)1 53 43 01 71 | (mail) clav...@ltutech.com >>>>>>>>> LTU technologies - Making Sense of Visual Content | >>>>>>>>> www.LTUtech.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>> Create and publish websites with WebMatrix >>>>>>>>> Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; 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