Keep a lookout for Umbraco 5 as well as this is going to be written in
ASP.NET MVC.

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Grant Molloy <[email protected]> wrote:

> Grant,
>
> There's plenty of CMS' to choose from here..
> http://www.cmswire.com/cms/products/
>
> I've had a look at Umbraco, DNN and SiteFinity..
> They're all pretty good, although DNN doesn't appear to target the same
> audience as Umbraco and SiteFinity.
>
> Grant
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Grant Maw <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hey David
>>
>> Thanks for the detailed response.
>>
>> We have to use a .net solution because the client is heavily invested in
>> .net already and we want to re-use as much as we can in terms of existing
>> skills and existing code. We are already working with DNN but Sitefinity
>> came onto our radar and I was just curious as to what people's experiences
>> were. We'll probably grab the free copy and evaluate it, as well as the one
>> you mention below.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Grant
>>
>> On 16 March 2010 15:10, David Connors <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>  On 16 March 2010 14:40, Grant Maw <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wondering if anyone has used Telerik's Sitefinity product before, and if
>>>> so, what are your thoughts on it as opposed to the other .net CMSs
>>>> (DotNetNuke in particular). How do you rate it in terms of the learning
>>>> curve from a developer perspective, ease of deployment of apps, source
>>>> control issues (if any) etc
>>>>
>>>> Any and all comments appreciated
>>>>
>>>
>>> I've not used Sitefinity (looks pretty simplistic from the screenies) but
>>> as far as my wide and varied search has gone over the years, there are no
>>> good content management solutions for .NET. If you're after something that
>>> doesn't pump out some debacle based on web.forms with multiple URLs for the
>>> same piece of content, etc then you're fresh out of luck. We have always
>>> ended up doing bespoke solutions for customers - at least that way we can
>>> ensure we're generating content that is not clogged up with
>>> viewstate/__dopostback/entire-page-wrapped-in-<form>-tags and other
>>> web.forms junk.
>>>
>>> We did an eval of DNN as a basis for making ozdotnet a web based forum
>>> (using ActiveForums + the mail connector) and found it particularly
>>> irritating in terms of the final content rendered and the general pain of
>>> using the content management application. You end up spending so much time
>>> fighting their crappy framework that you start to think you might just be
>>> better writing it all yourself. It is also heavy on the data tier so, like
>>> most open source amateur night endeavours, a caching strategy (and
>>> associated pain for highly dynamic sites) is mandatory, not optional. There
>>> was a whole bunch of stuff in DNN screwed at the time like the scheduler not
>>> working - and the developers did not appear to give a rats about fixing the
>>> issues (only to give you the normal useless nerd tech support answer of a
>>> lecture about not using a web based scheduler but writing a service instead
>>> - which is good advice except if you're trying to make a COTS package like
>>> ActiveForums work and it is built around the web based scheduler)
>>>
>>> The best thing we've come across is KenticoCMS however it has a lot of
>>> odd behaviours (multiple URLs for the same piece of content,
>>> www.codify.com/lists is not the same as www.codify.com/lists/, confusion
>>> between folders and pages, scalability issues and so on). The content
>>> management application experience is still less than ideal (you really need
>>> to know HTML to get the result you want online) and you end up writing
>>> everything in MS Word and then converting it to ASCII then marking it up
>>> again in HTML inside the CMS. Their HTML rich editor will defeat your every
>>> attempt at getting a consistent result on the page. Simple tasks like
>>> rearranging ten pages is very difficult due to tree views refreshing on
>>> every operation and so on. Plus it is not cheap if you want to host multiple
>>> sites. But it is the best of a bad bunch in my view and lets you get the
>>> fundamentals around content tagging/meta data right.
>>>
>>> What are you specifically trying to achieve? That might guide the advice
>>> the list gives you.
>>>
>>> --
>>> David Connors ([email protected])
>>> Software Engineer
>>> Codify Pty Ltd - www.codify.com
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>>>
>>>
>>
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