Thanks all your your responses. Appreciated. On 17 March 2010 13:42, Jonathan Parker <[email protected]>wrote:
> http://www.cmsmatrix.org/ > > > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Jonathan Parker < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Keep a lookout for Umbraco 5 as well as this is going to be written in >> ASP.NET <http://asp.net/> MVC. >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Grant Molloy <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Grant, >>> >>> There's plenty of CMS' to choose from here.. >>> http://www.cmswire.com/cms/products/ >>> >>> I've had a look at Umbraco, DNN and SiteFinity.. >>> They're all pretty good, although DNN doesn't appear to target the same >>> audience as Umbraco and SiteFinity. >>> >>> Grant >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Grant Maw <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey David >>>> >>>> Thanks for the detailed response. >>>> >>>> We have to use a .net solution because the client is heavily invested in >>>> .net already and we want to re-use as much as we can in terms of existing >>>> skills and existing code. We are already working with DNN but Sitefinity >>>> came onto our radar and I was just curious as to what people's experiences >>>> were. We'll probably grab the free copy and evaluate it, as well as the one >>>> you mention below. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Grant >>>> >>>> On 16 March 2010 15:10, David Connors <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 16 March 2010 14:40, Grant Maw <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Wondering if anyone has used Telerik's Sitefinity product before, and >>>>>> if so, what are your thoughts on it as opposed to the other .net CMSs >>>>>> (DotNetNuke in particular). How do you rate it in terms of the learning >>>>>> curve from a developer perspective, ease of deployment of apps, source >>>>>> control issues (if any) etc >>>>>> >>>>>> Any and all comments appreciated >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I've not used Sitefinity (looks pretty simplistic from the screenies) >>>>> but as far as my wide and varied search has gone over the years, there are >>>>> no good content management solutions for .NET. If you're after something >>>>> that doesn't pump out some debacle based on web.forms with multiple URLs >>>>> for >>>>> the same piece of content, etc then you're fresh out of luck. We have >>>>> always >>>>> ended up doing bespoke solutions for customers - at least that way we can >>>>> ensure we're generating content that is not clogged up with >>>>> viewstate/__dopostback/entire-page-wrapped-in-<form>-tags and other >>>>> web.forms junk. >>>>> >>>>> We did an eval of DNN as a basis for making ozdotnet a web based forum >>>>> (using ActiveForums + the mail connector) and found it particularly >>>>> irritating in terms of the final content rendered and the general pain of >>>>> using the content management application. You end up spending so much time >>>>> fighting their crappy framework that you start to think you might just be >>>>> better writing it all yourself. It is also heavy on the data tier so, like >>>>> most open source amateur night endeavours, a caching strategy (and >>>>> associated pain for highly dynamic sites) is mandatory, not optional. >>>>> There >>>>> was a whole bunch of stuff in DNN screwed at the time like the scheduler >>>>> not >>>>> working - and the developers did not appear to give a rats about fixing >>>>> the >>>>> issues (only to give you the normal useless nerd tech support answer of a >>>>> lecture about not using a web based scheduler but writing a service >>>>> instead >>>>> - which is good advice except if you're trying to make a COTS package like >>>>> ActiveForums work and it is built around the web based scheduler) >>>>> >>>>> The best thing we've come across is KenticoCMS however it has a lot of >>>>> odd behaviours (multiple URLs for the same piece of content, >>>>> www.codify.com/lists is not the same as www.codify.com/lists/, >>>>> confusion between folders and pages, scalability issues and so on). The >>>>> content management application experience is still less than ideal (you >>>>> really need to know HTML to get the result you want online) and you end up >>>>> writing everything in MS Word and then converting it to ASCII then marking >>>>> it up again in HTML inside the CMS. Their HTML rich editor will defeat >>>>> your >>>>> every attempt at getting a consistent result on the page. Simple tasks >>>>> like >>>>> rearranging ten pages is very difficult due to tree views refreshing on >>>>> every operation and so on. Plus it is not cheap if you want to host >>>>> multiple >>>>> sites. But it is the best of a bad bunch in my view and lets you get the >>>>> fundamentals around content tagging/meta data right. >>>>> >>>>> What are you specifically trying to achieve? That might guide the >>>>> advice the list gives you. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> David Connors ([email protected]) >>>>> Software Engineer >>>>> Codify Pty Ltd - www.codify.com >>>>> Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 >>>>> 417 189 363 >>>>> V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors >>>>> Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
