Well i treat software like a car.  When you buy a car they don't give you
the blueprints...

Client always gets what they pay for..which is usually a function piece of
software(code not always included) that helps them run their business...

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From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Arjang Assadi
Sent: Friday, 4 June 2010 8:38 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!

Hi Anthony,

Please forgive my ignorance but my question is what is normal
practice? What is meant by work? When quoting hourly rate, I assume
that at the end they would get everything and since I have been paid
for the time to produce it, it belongs to them.

Kind Regards

Arjang


On 3 June 2010 20:11, Anthony <asale...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
> I assume that if the client doesn’t ask for the code then i don’t give it
> out.  I would increase my fee if they want the code anyway
>
>
>
> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
> On Behalf Of Michael Minutillo
> Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2010 3:07 PM
> To: ozDotNet
>
> Subject: Re: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
>
>
>
> Well most clients I have dealt with in the past end up with the source
code.
>
>
>
>> After all, "clients" have been accepting obfuscated code since time
>> immemorial already! (Well, at least since the 1980s.) That's what
compiled
>> code is! Unless you wanted to reverse engineer to assembly language,
pretty
>> much everything was obfuscated.
>
>
>
> In the form of a product that is true. But if that were the case I would
> expect the OP would have wanted to obfuscate the entire solution. As there
> is a single binary to be obfuscated (and it gets used a lot) it sounds
more
> likely that it is being used in custom software that is developed for a
> single client. For the client:
>
>
>
> If they purchase a library then they get a support contract so if things
go
> wrong they get fixed
>
> If they use an open source library then they get the code so they can fix
> issues or pass them on to someone to fix.
>
> If the developer hands them a library which is neither they could be in
> trouble.
>
>
>
> If you are selling a product with support then this is OK because you have
> an agreement with the client that you'll fix anything that goes wrong. If
> you were to have a falling out with the client over an invoice or
something
> (it happens) then they effectively have a piece of software that only you
> (someone they no longer wish to do business with) can maintain.
>
>
>
> As a client I would consider that an unacceptable risk.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Dylan Tusler
> <dylan.tus...@sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au> wrote:
>
>> That is potentially a pretty dangerous risk for a client to accept isn't
>> it? Unless it contains some kind of proprietary algorithm or something
I'm
>> not sure it's a great idea.
>
>
>
> That's a pretty weird point of view.
>
>
>
> After all, "clients" have been accepting obfuscated code since time
> immemorial already! (Well, at least since the 1980s.) That's what compiled
> code is! Unless you wanted to reverse engineer to assembly language,
pretty
> much everything was obfuscated.
>
>
>
> Dylan.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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