I should have made my position a bit clearer, I already have a telstra
unlimited plan, and don't really want to buy another plan from them.  OTOH,
I wouldn't mind buying a phone and swapping SIMs for a while to try it out.
 Which was why I was asking if there was the equivalent of Google's
'concept' phones like the Nexus series have been.  (that typically do not
rely on the carrier to push OS updates)

  Mike

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 4:23 PM, David Kean <[email protected]>wrote:

>  I just had a look, my current bill is around $135 per month for two
> phones, on nearly absolute cheapest minutes + highest data plan. That’s
> $1620 for two years per phone. So it’s not that far off Australia. If I
> brought my own device, I would not have saved much off that (I know this
> because I borked at the cost of that being that my previous phone [I didn’t
> use mobiles much] many, many years previous was on the $5 Telstra plan).**
> **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *mike smith
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 20, 2012 10:59 PM
>
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* Re: Windows Phone 8 announced****
>
> ** **
>
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Bill McCarthy <
> [email protected]> wrote:****
>
> |America seems to have more carrier locked and subsidised phones.  Now we
> can
> |buy them like that here, but it seems to work out better buying the phone
> |separate from carrier.****
>
> Really ?   What price is the latest smart phone outright, about $600 ?
> Over 24 months, that's about $25 a month. The carriers generally only
> charge about half that with a package, so a saving of about $300 or more.*
> ***
>
>
> Ok, Samsung Galaxy Note - buy outright $500 - buy on Telstra plan $1776
> over 24 months MINIMUM****
>
> ** **
>
> http://www.telstra.com.au/latest-offers/samsung-galaxy-note/index.htm ****
>
> ** **
>
>
> http://www.topbuy.com.au/tbcart/pc/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-N7000-I9220-Unlocked-Carbon-Blue-3g-And-Next-G-5-3-Inch-Mobile-Gps-Phone-p134153.htm?utm_source=TopBuy_Google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=TBDF-XX86742
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> Ok, you still need a plan to run the phone, but not one that costs near
> that much.****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
>  ****
>
>
>
> |-----Original Message-----
> |From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet-****
>
> |[email protected]] On Behalf Of mike smith
> |Sent: Thursday, 21 June 2012 2:41 PM
> |To: ozDotNet
> |Subject: Re: Windows Phone 8 announced
> |****
>
> |On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 2:13 PM, David Kean <[email protected]>
> |wrote:
> |
> |
> |       (This is my own opinion, please do not confuse it with
> Microsoft's, or as
> |representing Microsoft's. While I contribute code to Phone 8, I don't
> work on the
> |team, and am not privy to why behind their marketing/engineering
> decisions)
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |:)
> |
> |I'd comment on a gmail account were I you...  If I was commenting
> officially on
> |HP matters I work with, I'd use my HP domained email.
> |
> |
> |       Take a step back, how many years do you really think it will
> actually take
> |for Phone 8 apps to become more prevalent than the Phone 7 apps? How many
> |of you will have already replaced your phone by then?
> |
> |       It's been a while since I've owned a phone in Australia so I don't
> know
> |how it works there, but in the US everyone gets a new phone every 18 - 24
> |months (depending on if the carrier lets you upgrade early), by the time
> Phone 8
> |has released, and has enough apps to worry you, you'll already be at the
> start of
> |a new upgrade cycle.
> |
> |
> |
> |America seems to have more carrier locked and subsidised phones.  Now we
> can
> |buy them like that here, but it seems to work out better buying the phone
> |separate from carrier.
> |
> |
> |
> |       -----Original Message-----****
>
> |       From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet-
> |[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill McCarthy
> |       Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:03 PM
> |       To: 'ozDotNet'
> |       Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced
> |
> |       Seriously ?   Is that the new Microsoft policy, just dump old
> customers ?  I
> |       see they said 18 months of updates in regards to windows 8.
> |
> |       For me, I see Windows Phone as something that's evolving, and
> thought,
> |and expected it, just like the iphone does, bring customers along with
> them, not
> |just abandon them every three years or so (well last time it was three
> years
> |       ago)
> |
> |       The sad part is I can't honestly tell people they should buy a
> windows
> |phone today. And it's a paint to have to tell them, yes last week when I
> said to
> |buy a windows phone that was all we knew, now we know your phone will be
> |obsolete come September.
> |
> |
> |       |-----Original Message-----
> |       |From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet-
> |       |[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Kean
> |       |Sent: Thursday, 21 June 2012 1:45 PM
> |       |To: ozDotNet
> |       |Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced
> |       |
> |       |I don't why the unhappiness, clearly you were happy with the
> device
> |       |when
> |       you
> |       |bought it, why do you care that a newer device sometime in the
> future
> |       |is
> |       coming
> |       |out?
> |       |
> |       |-----Original Message-----
> |       |From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet-
> |       |[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill McCarthy
> |       |Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 6:48 PM
> |       |To: 'ozDotNet'
> |       |Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced
> |       |
> |       |Now I'm really grumpy...  My lumia 800 isn't that old, but now
> |       |apparently
> |       it is :(
> |       |
> |       |
> |       ||-----Original Message-----
> |       ||From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet-
> |       ||[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Burela
> |       ||Sent: Thursday, 21 June 2012 4:52 AM
> |       ||To: ozDotNet
> |       ||Subject: Windows Phone 8 announced
> |       ||
> |       ||For anyone interested, I put my rough notes online of the Windows
> |       ||Phone
> |       ||8 announcement.
> |       ||
> |       ||http://bit.ly/MrWEze
> |       ||Some highlights:
> |       ||
> |       ||*     Shared core between Windows 8 & Windows Phone 8.
> |       ||*     New user definable tile sizes (like Windows 8). Can now
> have 1/4
> |       |sized
> |       ||mini tiles to give it more flavour.
> |       ||*     A new "company hub" that corporate IT can display apps and
> |deploy
> |       |from
> |       ||their internal servers.
> |       ||*     Support for new high resolution screens (720p)
> |       ||*     Existing device aren't upgradeable to 8.0, but existing
> devices will
> |       |get a
> |       ||7.8 update that will give some of the features, such as the new
> tiles.
> |       ||
> |       ||http://davidburela.wordpress.com/2012/06/21/my-notes-from-the-
> |windows-
> |       ||phone-8-announcement/
> |<http://davidburela.wordpress.com/2012/06/21/my-notes-from-the-windows-
> |||phone-8-announcement/<http://davidburela.wordpress.com/2012/06/21/my-notes-from-the-windows-%0d%0a%7C%7C%7Cphone-8-announcement/>
> >
> |       ||
> |       ||-David Burela
> |       ||Regional Technical Evangelist
> |       ||Infragistics
> |       |
> |       |
> |       |
> |       |
> |       |
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |--
> |Meski
> |
> |
> | http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv
> |
> |"Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
> you'll get it,
> |but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
>
> ****
>
>
>
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> --
> Meski****
>
>  http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv****
>
>
> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills****
>
> ** **
>



-- 
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