Getting things to look good on all browsers takes a bit of experience. I
think the keys are

- Don't support old browsers (IE6) unless you really have to
- Remember that it doesn't have to look exactly the same on every browser.
If IE8 doesn't support gradients for example, they don't get them.
- Use common frameworks like Twitter Bootstrap and jQuery that do a lot of
work abstracting the change out for you.



On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Greg Low (GregLow.com)
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Yep, found the same. They were very useful.****
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> Now if browsers would only all play the game properly, it’d be pretty
> easy. I still find real challenges trying to get things to look even close
> to the same on the different browsers, even with trying different toolkits.
> ****
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> Regards,****
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> Greg****
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> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jason Roberts
> *Sent:* Thursday, 21 March 2013 10:31 AM
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* RE: nTier ASP.NET MVC Application Architecture****
>
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>
> Hi Greg, as well as the fat books, you may find the Pluralsight MVC videos
> helpful too...
>
> Cheers,
> Jason****
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>
> *From: *Greg Keogh
> *Sent: *21/03/2013 6:36 AM
> *To: *ozDotNet
> *Subject: *Re: nTier ASP.NET MVC Application Architecture****
>
> This discussion comes at a coincidentally interesting time for me, as over
> recent years I have become increasingly irritated by classic ASP.NET. The
> controls are just so heavyweight and the lifecycle of events and postbacks
> is so tangled that you need a doctorate in topology to follow it. All of
> the problems I have ever suffered usually boil down to fighting or
> misunderstanding the huge infrastructure that wraps up such a simple
> concept as a http request. Lord knows how many times I've made a subtle
> mistake in Load, CreateChildControls, PreRender, Render, event handlers,
> etc, causing composite controls or repeater controls to produce gibberish.
> And then there is the misery of trying to integrate JavaScript into the
> machinery.****
>
>  ****
>
> I was just about to visit bookware and buy two fat ASP.NET MVC 4 books,
> obviously because I'm considering that as an alternative. I've read about
> the differences between the frameworks and I've run some tutorials and can
> see immediately that MVC takes you closer to the wire and gives you more
> control over rendering, with the penalty that you have to do more work.***
> *
>
>  ****
>
> So I'm wondering if there is anyone here who has migrated to MVC 3/4
> successfully and happily? Is it just substituting one huge complex
> framework for another huge complex one which simply changes the problems
> from one set to another? I worry about the number of files in a large MVC
> project. Are there tools or techniques to integrate scripting more easily?
> What about emitting html that is cross-browser safe or standards compliant?
> Will MVC make these things easier than in class ASP.NET?****
>
>  ****
>
> Should I give up on ASP.NET completely and use something like the GTK or
> the confusing family of similar tools to use html5? Can I leave the
> ASP.NET world totally behind and go this way for rich and interactive web
> sites? Has anyone gone this way? Is it just a new form of suffering?****
>
>  ****
>
> Greg K****
>

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