Have you guys ever checked out Modernizr (http://modernizr.com/)?
When it comes to browser compatibility there not only several browsers to support, but the platform makes a difference too (e.g. a mobile platform isn't necessarily fully featured). What Modernizr does is test the browser for what features it supports, and where a feature is missing you decide whether you want to: - Do without (i.e. rounded corners might not be important) - Use a 'PolyFill' which is some java-script that 'fakes' the feature - Find your own way around using CSS It's not perfect, but it does make life a lot easier. On 21 March 2013 10:36, Greg Low (GregLow.com) <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Craig, > > > > Agreed but what intrigues me (or frustrates me) is the real differences in > even very basic functionality. > > > > Even sadder are things like it being 2013 and there’s still no common video > format that you can use, etc. > > > > Regards, > > > > Greg > > > > Dr Greg Low > > > > 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax > > SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com > > > > From: Craig van Nieuwkerk [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, 21 March 2013 12:25 PM > To: [email protected]; ozDotNet > Subject: Re: nTier ASP.NET MVC Application Architecture > > > > Getting things to look good on all browsers takes a bit of experience. I > think the keys are > > > > - Don't support old browsers (IE6) unless you really have to > > - Remember that it doesn't have to look exactly the same on every browser. > If IE8 doesn't support gradients for example, they don't get them. > > - Use common frameworks like Twitter Bootstrap and jQuery that do a lot of > work abstracting the change out for you. > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Greg Low (GregLow.com) <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Yep, found the same. They were very useful. > > > > Now if browsers would only all play the game properly, it’d be pretty easy. > I still find real challenges trying to get things to look even close to the > same on the different browsers, even with trying different toolkits. > > > > Regards, > > > > Greg > > > > Dr Greg Low > > > > 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax > > SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Jason Roberts > Sent: Thursday, 21 March 2013 10:31 AM > To: ozDotNet > Subject: RE: nTier ASP.NET MVC Application Architecture > > > > Hi Greg, as well as the fat books, you may find the Pluralsight MVC videos > helpful too... > > Cheers, > Jason > > ________________________________ > > From: Greg Keogh > Sent: 21/03/2013 6:36 AM > To: ozDotNet > Subject: Re: nTier ASP.NET MVC Application Architecture > > This discussion comes at a coincidentally interesting time for me, as over > recent years I have become increasingly irritated by classic ASP.NET. The > controls are just so heavyweight and the lifecycle of events and postbacks > is so tangled that you need a doctorate in topology to follow it. All of the > problems I have ever suffered usually boil down to fighting or > misunderstanding the huge infrastructure that wraps up such a simple concept > as a http request. Lord knows how many times I've made a subtle mistake in > Load, CreateChildControls, PreRender, Render, event handlers, etc, causing > composite controls or repeater controls to produce gibberish. And then there > is the misery of trying to integrate JavaScript into the machinery. > > > > I was just about to visit bookware and buy two fat ASP.NET MVC 4 books, > obviously because I'm considering that as an alternative. I've read about > the differences between the frameworks and I've run some tutorials and can > see immediately that MVC takes you closer to the wire and gives you more > control over rendering, with the penalty that you have to do more work. > > > > So I'm wondering if there is anyone here who has migrated to MVC 3/4 > successfully and happily? Is it just substituting one huge complex framework > for another huge complex one which simply changes the problems from one set > to another? I worry about the number of files in a large MVC project. Are > there tools or techniques to integrate scripting more easily? What about > emitting html that is cross-browser safe or standards compliant? Will MVC > make these things easier than in class ASP.NET? > > > > Should I give up on ASP.NET completely and use something like the GTK or the > confusing family of similar tools to use html5? Can I leave the ASP.NET > world totally behind and go this way for rich and interactive web sites? Has > anyone gone this way? Is it just a new form of suffering? > > > > Greg K > >
