You really ought to try a mechanical keyboard. They are more expensive but
they are solid, well built, and will last you a lifetime if you look after
them. My (non-touch) typing has improved by a factor of 2, and I was pretty
fast before this. Look at Armor for a wireless one or SteelSeries for a
wired one.


On 15 August 2013 13:51, Wallace Turner <[email protected]> wrote:

> Do not accept that the ergonomic keyboard will make your life easier. I
> used one for well over a year before I realised I hated it. its too big,
> its inconvenient. when debugging step out is a pain in the neck as I'm used
> to using my left hand alone to do this (Shift-11) as my right hand is on
> the mouse so i can inspect variables or whatever I need to do when
> debugging.
>
> I'm back on a compact keyboard - works for me.
>
> http://www.dhgate.com/product/new-dell-mini-1012-series-uk-black-keyboard/143650991.html?utm_source=pla&utm_medium=GMC&utm_campaign=wisshen&utm_term=143650991&f=bm%7c143650991%7c104006-Keyboards-Mice-Input%7cGMC%7cAdwords%7cpla%7cwisshen%7cAU%7c104006007-LaptopReplacementKeyboards%7cc%7c&gclid=CIvSya7F_rgCFcYipQodXjoAkA
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Corneliu I. Tusnea <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> I'm a big fan of keyboards and I've tested heaps and heaps of them and I
>> always go back to the ergonomic ones from Microsoft.
>> I know you don't like them but I think they are very very good and once
>> you get used you'll never want to go back.
>>
>> I'm currently using the Microsoft Natural 400
>> http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/p/natural-ergonomic-keyboard-4000
>>
>> I have one at home and one at work and they rock. The split angle is
>> small enough to allow easy use with one hand in the rare moments that I
>> need to use a single hand and keep a hand on the mouse.
>> The older ergonomic ones were having a higher angle making them
>> impossible to use with one hand.
>> I also looked at that new Manta Ray and I think I'll buy one. I like that
>> the keypad is separate and I love the long delete key (my previous keyboard
>> had that long delete and I enjoyed it.
>>
>> To make my life easier I always remap most of VS commands that I
>> frequently use to use only the left hand with no need to use the right hand.
>> - Alt+1 - Build Selected Project
>> - Alt+2 - Find References (Resharper)
>> - Alt+W - Highlight References
>> - Alt+Q - Goto Definition
>> and few more so you can keep a hand on the mouse and one on the keyboard
>> :)
>>
>> I think no keyboard shortcut should ever need two hands.
>> Whoever came up with the Ctrl+Shift+F12 shortcut and Ctrl+Shift+B?
>> Have you tried to press Ctrl+Shift+B with one hand? My hand hurts just
>> looking a the keyboard to try to figure out how to press that.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 1:08 PM, mike smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:04 PM, David Richards <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> A bit off topic and a bit on topic.  I've been in the market for a good
>>>> developer keyboard for a while but never seem to find anything I like.  I
>>>> was just wondering if others on this list had found a decent keyboard.
>>>>
>>>> A few qualifying points:
>>>>
>>>> I don't want a number pad or at least I don't want one on the right of
>>>> the keyboard.  Not that I have anything against them, I just want my mouse
>>>> to be closer.  I've tested this using a cheap (and crappy) laptop like
>>>> keyboard and there is a noticeable difference in comfort.  I can just as
>>>> easily by a separate number pad keyboard to position elsewhere.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Or not at all.  If you touchtype, they are almost unused.  Funny I
>>> didn't realise this, I just picked up my somewhat used KB and held it to
>>> reflect light.   Right.  The numeric KB is still matte, the main KB numbers
>>> are shiny with wear.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I would prefer the cursor keys and the other navigation keys to be in a
>>>> reasonable location.  My "crappy" keyboard as some of these along the
>>>> bottom.  It also sacrificed the right Control key in favour of a Scroll
>>>> Lock key.  Who uses scroll lock any more?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> What does it even do?
>>>
>>>
>>>>  I don't like those "ergonomic" keyboards that split the keyboard to
>>>> be comfortable for two hands.  I don't know about the rest of you but I
>>>> spend at least as much time with one hand on the mouse and the other on the
>>>> keyboard as I do with both hands on the keyboard.  So the ergonomic aspects
>>>> are actually a hindrance when typing with one hand.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Disagree.  Going back to flat KB's is a major pain now for me.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I don't care about media buttons or any other specific use button.  I
>>>> never user them.  They just make the keyboard bigger.  20% of the keys on
>>>> my current keyboard will never be used.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Agree, and get rid of the effing flock key and all the media shifts on
>>> the f keys.
>>>
>>>
>>>>  Obviously I want the keys to be comfortable to use 8 hours a day.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Dude, at least 8.  You likely use a KB another 4-8 when you get home.
>>>
>>>
>>>> The recently announce keyboard from microsoft is fairly close to what
>>>> I'm looking for:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/08/microsofts-new-ergonomic-keyboard-is-just-plain-weird-looking/
>>>>
>>>> But it's ergonomic style is a bit of a negative.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Yes, and I'm going to call in at officeworks to buy one on the way home.
>>>  Thank you!
>>>
>>> Re ergonomic.  Try it for a while, you'll learn to love leaning your
>>> wrists on something.  And likely hate the normal ones.  I use one at home
>>> on the iMac - for such an ergonomic company Apple has awful keyboards and
>>> mice.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Meski
>>>
>>>    http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv
>>>
>>> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
>>> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
>>>
>>
>>
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