I am a big fan of the das keyboard mechanical keyboards. I have 2, one for home, one for work. Slight preference for the older II series. On 15 Aug 2013 13:59, "Grant Maw" <[email protected]> wrote:
> You really ought to try a mechanical keyboard. They are more expensive but > they are solid, well built, and will last you a lifetime if you look after > them. My (non-touch) typing has improved by a factor of 2, and I was pretty > fast before this. Look at Armor for a wireless one or SteelSeries for a > wired one. > > > On 15 August 2013 13:51, Wallace Turner <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Do not accept that the ergonomic keyboard will make your life easier. I >> used one for well over a year before I realised I hated it. its too big, >> its inconvenient. when debugging step out is a pain in the neck as I'm used >> to using my left hand alone to do this (Shift-11) as my right hand is on >> the mouse so i can inspect variables or whatever I need to do when >> debugging. >> >> I'm back on a compact keyboard - works for me. >> >> http://www.dhgate.com/product/new-dell-mini-1012-series-uk-black-keyboard/143650991.html?utm_source=pla&utm_medium=GMC&utm_campaign=wisshen&utm_term=143650991&f=bm%7c143650991%7c104006-Keyboards-Mice-Input%7cGMC%7cAdwords%7cpla%7cwisshen%7cAU%7c104006007-LaptopReplacementKeyboards%7cc%7c&gclid=CIvSya7F_rgCFcYipQodXjoAkA >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Corneliu I. Tusnea < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi David, >>> >>> I'm a big fan of keyboards and I've tested heaps and heaps of them and I >>> always go back to the ergonomic ones from Microsoft. >>> I know you don't like them but I think they are very very good and once >>> you get used you'll never want to go back. >>> >>> I'm currently using the Microsoft Natural 400 >>> http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/p/natural-ergonomic-keyboard-4000 >>> >>> I have one at home and one at work and they rock. The split angle is >>> small enough to allow easy use with one hand in the rare moments that I >>> need to use a single hand and keep a hand on the mouse. >>> The older ergonomic ones were having a higher angle making them >>> impossible to use with one hand. >>> I also looked at that new Manta Ray and I think I'll buy one. I like >>> that the keypad is separate and I love the long delete key (my previous >>> keyboard had that long delete and I enjoyed it. >>> >>> To make my life easier I always remap most of VS commands that I >>> frequently use to use only the left hand with no need to use the right hand. >>> - Alt+1 - Build Selected Project >>> - Alt+2 - Find References (Resharper) >>> - Alt+W - Highlight References >>> - Alt+Q - Goto Definition >>> and few more so you can keep a hand on the mouse and one on the keyboard >>> :) >>> >>> I think no keyboard shortcut should ever need two hands. >>> Whoever came up with the Ctrl+Shift+F12 shortcut and Ctrl+Shift+B? >>> Have you tried to press Ctrl+Shift+B with one hand? My hand hurts just >>> looking a the keyboard to try to figure out how to press that. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 1:08 PM, mike smith <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:04 PM, David Richards < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> A bit off topic and a bit on topic. I've been in the market for a >>>>> good developer keyboard for a while but never seem to find anything I >>>>> like. >>>>> I was just wondering if others on this list had found a decent keyboard. >>>>> >>>>> A few qualifying points: >>>>> >>>>> I don't want a number pad or at least I don't want one on the right of >>>>> the keyboard. Not that I have anything against them, I just want my mouse >>>>> to be closer. I've tested this using a cheap (and crappy) laptop like >>>>> keyboard and there is a noticeable difference in comfort. I can just as >>>>> easily by a separate number pad keyboard to position elsewhere. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Or not at all. If you touchtype, they are almost unused. Funny I >>>> didn't realise this, I just picked up my somewhat used KB and held it to >>>> reflect light. Right. The numeric KB is still matte, the main KB numbers >>>> are shiny with wear. >>>> >>>> >>>>> I would prefer the cursor keys and the other navigation keys to be in >>>>> a reasonable location. My "crappy" keyboard as some of these along the >>>>> bottom. It also sacrificed the right Control key in favour of a Scroll >>>>> Lock key. Who uses scroll lock any more? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> What does it even do? >>>> >>>> >>>>> I don't like those "ergonomic" keyboards that split the keyboard to >>>>> be comfortable for two hands. I don't know about the rest of you but I >>>>> spend at least as much time with one hand on the mouse and the other on >>>>> the >>>>> keyboard as I do with both hands on the keyboard. So the ergonomic >>>>> aspects >>>>> are actually a hindrance when typing with one hand. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Disagree. Going back to flat KB's is a major pain now for me. >>>> >>>> >>>>> I don't care about media buttons or any other specific use button. I >>>>> never user them. They just make the keyboard bigger. 20% of the keys on >>>>> my current keyboard will never be used. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Agree, and get rid of the effing flock key and all the media shifts on >>>> the f keys. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Obviously I want the keys to be comfortable to use 8 hours a day. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Dude, at least 8. You likely use a KB another 4-8 when you get home. >>>> >>>> >>>>> The recently announce keyboard from microsoft is fairly close to what >>>>> I'm looking for: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/08/microsofts-new-ergonomic-keyboard-is-just-plain-weird-looking/ >>>>> >>>>> But it's ergonomic style is a bit of a negative. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Yes, and I'm going to call in at officeworks to buy one on the way >>>> home. Thank you! >>>> >>>> Re ergonomic. Try it for a while, you'll learn to love leaning your >>>> wrists on something. And likely hate the normal ones. I use one at home >>>> on the iMac - for such an ergonomic company Apple has awful keyboards and >>>> mice. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Meski >>>> >>>> http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv >>>> >>>> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, >>>> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills >>>> >>> >>> >> >
