My experience of long, complex deployments is that the first bit's always pretty hard. You're always running into new challenges and issues. However, once you get enough "template" rollout processes, then things start to pick up - it becomes cookie-cutter.
Cheers Ken From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of GregAtGregLowDotCom Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 3:14 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: [OT] NBN revisited But what's the alternative Bill? Wait for the NBN? We're not even on the "we'll think about starting within 3 years" map. And all they keep doing with the current targets is downgrading them. So what chance do we have of seeing it in anything like a reasonable timeframe? I'm in an area where they'd make a lot of money by rolling it out. So by their logic, we can't have it. If, however, I lived out the back of Ballarat, no problems. As I said, conceptually I love the idea. I just can't see it actually being delivered. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com<http://www.sqldownunder.com/> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill McCarthy Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 3:06 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: [OT] NBN revisited I wouldn't count on that running that smoothly. It will take time to get that many "fridges" installed everywhere: thinking it can all be done in three years sounds incredibly hopeful to me. But even once that is done, then the fibre has to be physically installed down the road/streets. If that is done on an ad-hoc, one house here, one house there, not only is it terribly unproductive, but you can expect a whole lot of council backlash against the interruption to pedestrian and vehicle traffic etc, etc. Seriously, you should try to get Telstra to run you some cable today and see what the costs are and how long it takes: Only $5K from the exchange to your house: dreaming ;) From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of GregAtGregLowDotCom Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 2:51 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] NBN revisited Like most people, I'd love to have FTTH. However, I have zero confidence in the current government's ability to deliver it in a reasonable timeframe. Wishing for it won't make it happen. Given a choice between paying $3K-$5k to connect our house to a local node in 2016, and a dream of a service that's unlikely to appear before I retire in about 10 years' time, there really is no serious choice to be made. I'd pay the $3k-$5k in a heartbeat. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com<http://www.sqldownunder.com/> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Richards Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 2:38 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] NBN revisited Apart from the use of "impacted", a nice article. For some reason, this whole argument reminds me of the republic referendum some years back. I knew a number of people who didn't like the idea of a politician appointed president and thought voting "No" meant "the people" would vote for the president. The fact is, the vast majority of people who vote on such things do so without all the facts. Certainly not enough to be responsible for making a decision. People on this list will tend to be looking at it from a technical point of view. I doubt any of this has any meaning to the population in general. If the NBN was available in my area, I'd get it. For cable, my only option now is Optus which is what I have. Telstra told me I could get ADSL with a fraction of the data and for a lot more money. If only I had a choice... David "If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards... checkmate!" -Zapp Brannigan, Futurama On 4 September 2013 13:53, Bill McCarthy <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Here's a good read from today : http://www.theage.com.au/digital-life/computers/blogs/gadgets-on-the-go/turnbulls-fragmented-nbn-dooms-australia-to-repeat-the-mistakes-of-the-past-20130904-2t4cr.html Hopefully that will help some folks see past the one tree and start looking at the forest.
