Greg? Where are you?

This is your cue.


On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 1:11 PM, David Kean <[email protected]>wrote:

>  (We code a lot J)
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> As a matter of interest, by "old" stuff what are we referring to?
> Stephen/Grant what technologies/versions are you working with?
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> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Price
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:50 PM
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> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* Re: Migrating TFS
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> Unfortunately, I agree.
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> I do see some work done on things like ASP.Net (in an MVC focused world).
> It would be nice if they did focus on the old stuff as much as the new but
> I guess they have to balance things. No point in supporting old things that
> no one uses any more.
>
> Software moves so fast, they invent things faster than anyone can learn
> it. The bleeding edge hurts, always having to solve problems no one has hit
> before. The old stuff is boring and has been done to death.
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> That said its the boring stuff that makes up 80% of the code so you can't
> ignore it.
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> Microsoft, if you are listening, you have some damaged reputation that
> needs repairing. Do you even code? (hehe. I was going to write do you even
> lift?)
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> They need to speak with Greg K, I'm sure he has a few things to say about
> the matter. ;)
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> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Grant Maw <[email protected]> wrote:
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>  Update : the TFS Integration tool has proven to be completely useless.
> It just doesn't do what it says on the tin, not in this case anyway. Even
> when I could get it "sort of" working it kept throwing inexplicable
> exceptions.
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> I'm migrating the current cut of the source code manually and recreating
> my branches. We'll lose our history, but better that than wasting days on
> end fighting with these 2nd rate tools.
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> If Visual Studio itself wasn't the best IDE out there, we would migrate
> away to other platforms I think. Developer support in general just isn't
> good enough within Microsoft any longer, and unless you are working with
> the latest shiny new thing they don't seem to care.
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> On 12 February 2014 09:18, Grant Maw <[email protected]> wrote:
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>   Thanks all for the responses. Ran a test yesterday and it failed due to
> a one file in our project which it kept getting stuck on, trying over and
> over again to process this file but it kept on failing.
>
> I removed this file from the project (it was non-essential and we can
> re-add it again later if we need to), and tried again. This time it ran
> through without errors and told me that it had finished, after about 10
> seconds! Needless to say that nothing was transferred.
>
> It seems I have more reading to do on this. But yes, I am also a bit
> mystified at why they don't make it easier to migrate to the cloud
> environment. Surely that would have to have been one of these first things
> they considered. Wouldn't it?
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> On 12 February 2014 05:31, Paul Glavich <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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>  We moved from a 3rd party hosted full TFS instance to TFS Online however
> we only use the work items, not source control(I prefer mercurial/git).
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> It was a little painfull as we had used some customisation to
> fields/templates.
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> However, it was **mostly** ok (if a little time consuming). I just got
> the entire backlog into Excel. Did the same the TFS online, copy common
> fields from one excel sheet to another, publish to TFS online. This got us
> an easy 80-85% there. Other stuff was customised or had some other
> weirdness we had to look into but not too bad. We kept the old instance
> going while we did some sanity checks and ensured all was ok.
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> BTW, TFSOnline is great. Love the web interface and use it instead of the
> VS integration.
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> -          Glav
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> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Price
> *Sent:* 11 February 2014 6:57 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* Re: Migrating TFS
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> Grant,
>
> I did a migration from a one TFS server to another and it was a horrible
> experience. I don't recall the tool I used but I had the added complication
> of using a different Template on the destination server and it was trying
> to migrate loads of mismatching fields. The source control was ok and
> history seemed to work. The work items were sketchy with lots not migrated.
> We ended up keeping the old TFS server about in read only for reference.
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> Good job going to the cloud, I use Visual Studio online for my own stuff
> and its brilliant. Shame they don't make it easier to migrate into.
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> cheers,
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> Stephen
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> p.s. if you need help with it let me know ;)
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> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Grant Maw <[email protected]> wrote:
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>  Thanks Anthony. We're not worried about work items, just source code and
> history at this point, including branches. The TFS Integration Platform is
> beavering away as I write this (trying it out on a test copy of the
> project), telling me that 176 of 335 change groups have been migrated.
>
> I guess I'll just let it run and see where it lands me.
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> On 11 February 2014 15:40, Anthony Borton <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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>  Hi Grant,
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> I moved a client with around 35 team projects from an on-premises TFS up
> to Visual Studio Online using the TFS Integration Platform. I was pretty
> lucky in that they only needed the source to go up and didn't have work
> items to work about. The process was quite a bit more time consuming than I
> had planned and it was a seemingly never-ending exercise in massaging
> settings to get the source (with history) from each TP up to the cloud. A
> future TFS 2013 update should include a feature to help move data from VSO
> down to TFS but I haven't heard if there is anything there to help go the
> other way.
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> Cheers
>
>
>
> Anthony Borton
>
> Senior ALM Trainer/Consultant
>
> Visual Studio ALM MVP
>
> Enhance ALM Pty Ltd
>
>
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> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Grant Maw
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 11 February 2014 3:07 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* Migrating TFS
>
>
>
> Hi All
>
> Has anyone moved from on-premises TFS to visual studio online? We have a
> large solution, including branches, that needs to be pushed into the cloud
> as soon as possible and I'd love to hear any war stories before I start.
>
> I'm thinking about using the tool at http://tfsintegration.codeplex.com/.
>
> Cheers
>
> Grant
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