I'd have to respectfully disagree. Tried it and lost weight. On Tuesday, 20 June 2017, Stephen Price <[email protected]> wrote:
> Nope. > > If you cut calories and have any carbs in your system then you will have > insulin in your system and your body will be in storing mode. Impossible to > lose ANY weight if you are only storing. > > To bring it back on topic for the list it would be like being only able to > append records to a database table and not be able to delete. If you can > never delete then its impossible to make the table smaller. > > Insulin = store only. > > It's hormonal not caloric. You would put weight on if your lower calories > were high carb/sugars. Try it. > > On 20 Jun. 2017 12:01 pm, Bec C <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > > Never said a calorie is a calorie. Anyway try it, cut calories by like > 300-500 a day and you will lose weight. > > Anyway this post was about sit stand desks... > > On Tuesday, 20 June 2017, Piers Williams <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > > 'As far as losing weight goes it is all about calories' > > Read The Case Against Sugar or Pure White and Deadly, or watch That Sugar > Film, or The Men That Made Us Fat. They all make the point that the basic > biochemistry (which is well established) *absolutely* disagrees with > this. Fat, glucose and fructose all have very different pathways for > metabolism, which makes a lie of the 'calorie is a calorie' mantra (itself > accused of being an invention of the sugar industry). In That Sugar Film > (admittedly a sample size of one) he puts on significant weight without > changing total calorific intake, by swapping fat for sugar (and explains > why). > > I take everything I read highly skeptically, but in particular The Case > Against Sugar is very comprehensively argued and well worth reading. The > historical context is particularly damming. > > On 20 Jun. 2017 08:53, "Bec C" <[email protected]> wrote: > > You can be an idiot on any diet. I wouldn't believe everything you read > either. I've seen studies that totally contradict each other. > > Just for the record I'm not actually vegan. I tried it a few years ago. > > As far as losing weight goes it is all about calories. Being healthy is a > whole different thing. > > Anyway too off topic now > > On Tuesday, 20 June 2017, Piers Williams <[email protected]> wrote: > > OOTT: At the risk of starting a flame war, I'm going to call shenanigans > on this one (sorry Bec). Whilst most vegans probably have very healthy > diets (due to increased awareness of what they eat) there's nothing > inherent in veganism that actually ensures this, as a quick scan down the > vegan society pages confirms: https://www.vegansociety.com/r > esources/lifestyle/food-and-drink. Plenty of sugary treats in that list > described as vegan, even beans on toast is packed with the stuff. > > It's *not* about the calories. https://www.theguard > ian.com/society/2016/apr/07/the-sugar-conspiracy-robert-lustig-john-yudkin > > OOTT= off off-topic topic > > On 20 Jun. 2017 06:29, "Bec C" <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > > Yep that podcast is fairly good. Veganism also works for losing weight, > very hard to eat excess calories on a vegan diet. > > On Tuesday, 20 June 2017, Stephen Price <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > > Totally agree on this point. I've been ketogenic for six months now (lost > 6kg in the first month, have plateaued now but feel great). Some .net > people may know Carl Franklin's been podcasting at 2ketodudes.com, and > he's done an awesome job recording his progress. 6 months and he lost 80lb > and is no longer type 2 diabetic. > Got so much out of it, I backed his kickstarter project to turn his town > keto for a weekend. Flying out with my wife in a couple of weeks. Will be > seeing the sights in New York, then up to New London for ketofest. > Btw, you don't have to be over weight to suffer the damaging effects of > too much carbs/sugar. The inflammatory damage in your veins can't be seen > from the outside. > > One of the strange side effects I have noticed is that some days I forget > to eat. Today, I had accidentally turned off my alarm so was running a bit > late. Went to work with no breakfast, had one coffee at work, and worked > right through lunch as I hadn't taken anything and office is a bit of a > drive from places to eat. Barely noticed. > Don't miss sugar. Finding some awesome recipes along the way. Recently > made deep fried chicken crumbed in pork rinds combined with Parmesan > cheese. > So good. Hmm... this might possibly be the first recipe shared on this > elist. :) > > Anyway to keep on topic, had a standup desk and my last project, one of > those motorised ones. Great for exercise and strengthening but not losing > weight. What you put in your body has way more effect in that regard. You > can lose weight with zero exercise, but exercise is important for other > reasons. I.e. Preventing muscles wasting away. If you don't use it, you > lose it. > > Cheers, > Stephen > ------------------------------ > *From:* [email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> < > [email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> on > behalf of Piers Williams <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> > *Sent:* Monday, June 19, 2017 8:46:35 PM > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Re: [OT] Sit/stand desk results > > There are quite a few people in my office now using sit-to-stand desks. I > sent a scary article around about a year or so ago about the health issues, > but I think it's mostly the availability of reasonable quality converters > (Varidesk etc) that's really changed things. > > I'm between offices too much to have one myself (I'd need 3), so I just > concentrate on having a regular walk around the office instead, and having > all meetings as stand ups. And - on the insulin front - be sure to read up > on (and cut down on) the sugar that's crammed into everything these days. > > On 19 Jun. 2017 14:33, "Tony Wright" <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > > Hi Tom, > > No, not the back for me. They say that your body stops regulating insulin > properly after 4 hours of sitting, and that's about when I was feeling > unwell/lethargic from sitting. > > Regards, > Tony > > On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 4:00 PM, Tom Rutter <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > > Did you switch to this for a specific reason (lower back problem for > example)? If so did this help at all in a noticeable way? > > > On Monday, 19 June 2017, Tony Wright <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > > Hi Tom, > > It changes for me. Sometimes I stand, sometimes I sit. If I feel that I've > been sitting for too long, I hit the buttons and stand for a while. I'm not > regretful for one second that I have the option. > > Regards, > Tony > > On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Tom Rutter <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > > Hey folks > > I recall a while ago discussion into sit/stand desks and was interested in > how people went with this setup. Did those that tried standing get any good > (or bad) results? Are they still doing it or went back to only sitting? > > Cheers > > > > >
