I love that roadmap because it actually visualises the mess we live in today... so yeah... again.. is this really our best idea of the day? HTML/JS? :D
--- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 12:10 AM, Piers Williams <piers.willi...@gmail.com> wrote: > https://github.com/kamranahmedse/developer-roadmap seems like quite a > good landscape overview > > On 18 June 2017 at 18:47, Preet Sangha <preetsan...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks guys. I suspect that what I'm really after is the answer to the >> question "I'm gonna do some web dev to support my IOT projects, and to make >> the skills saleable, what web technologies should I consider as must haves >> these days?" >> >> I can see that javascript is the big one! As a .netter I'll obviously get >> reskilled in MVC and I already have ORM & SQL skills anyway. >> >> Again thanks for taking the time for your detailed answers! >> >> >> >> regards, >> Preet, in Auckland NZ >> >> >> On 18 June 2017 at 15:02, Stephen Price <step...@lythixdesigns.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Yes, I'm currently working on an Android application which is part of a >>> product suite. >>> >>> >>> The work going on in the Xamarin space is very active. Many new features >>> and bug fixes coming out regularly. >>> >>> Mature is a relative term I think. If you compare Xamarin with other >>> frameworks that have been around longer and are relatively slow moving (ie >>> say WPF) then yeah you could say its less mature. >>> >>> >>> If you want stable, then I would say that is there. The stable releases >>> are stable enough to use in production. Perfect? No, but each new release >>> is more stable than the last. Currently seeing several releases per month. >>> Show stopper bugs are unusual. >>> >>> >>> Looking at your post about getting into web technologies, I would say >>> that it would be difficult as a developer today to be able to be all over >>> Web technologies as well as Xamarin/mobile. Throw desktop into that and you >>> further dilute your skill focus. I have worked with all of these, desktop, >>> web and mobile. My experience is if you focus on one of them, keeping up to >>> date, then you miss things in the others. Last year I was working on >>> Angular 2 (about the time it released, I was using the final RC's) and I >>> don't even know what version it's at now. >>> >>> >>> It takes a lot of time to keep up to speed with so many fast moving >>> fronts. The more time you have available the more of them you can keep on >>> top off. I guess it comes down to your personal interests and goals on >>> which you focus on. Which do you enjoy the most? Do you contract or >>> permanent? Do you enjoy going deep on one technology or like to spread your >>> skills across many different technologies? If you do go deep on one, then >>> that will take you away from others. >>> >>> >>> Do what you love, you will do way better at it and it won't even feel >>> like work. Changing from one technology to another can take time as >>> employers tend to hire people with experience. I think you are on the right >>> path finding out the must haves to learn, but finding the "right" one might >>> be a much harder task as there are so many. In all my years as a developer, >>> I've never seen two projects using identical technology stacks. Even when >>> you compare two Angular projects, or whatever. >>> >>> That's gotta make choosing what to learn so much harder. >>> >>> >>> cheers >>> >>> Stephen >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com <ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> >>> on behalf of Preet Sangha <preetsan...@gmail.com> >>> *Sent:* Sunday, 18 June 2017 9:59:16 AM >>> *To:* ozDotNet >>> *Subject:* Re: What are the WebDev technologies that any self >>> respecting Dev should know these days? >>> >>> Are the. Net core skills in demand where you guys are based? Is anyone >>> doing commercial projects in the portable technologies? >>> >>> I've read about people experience of xamarin on the list and it doesn't >>> seem to resonate as mature technology. >>> >>> On 16/06/2017 11:00 pm, "Preet Sangha" <preetsan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Cheers. I appreciate the feedback. >>>> >>>> regards, >>>> Preet, in Auckland NZ >>>> >>>> >>>> On 16 June 2017 at 20:07, Bec C <bec.usern...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Melb market is also filled with Dynamics and Sitecore work. >>>>> >>>>> But as .net dude said JS is where it's all at. I found it very hard to >>>>> get work in Melb with no Angular or React experience. >>>>> >>>>> "Full stack" they usually want Angular or React, css, webapi, entity >>>>> framework, sql server. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, 16 June 2017, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hey Preet, >>>>>> >>>>>> Generally, Azure and JS frameworks like React and Angular is where >>>>>> "it" is mostly at these days as far as general .net wed dev goes. It >>>>>> also depends on location from my experience. I'm not familiar with the >>>>>> Auckland market at all. In Melbourne most of the maintenance work is in >>>>>> mvc, very little if any webforms, LOTS of Angular/React/whatever JS >>>>>> framework. Same for Sydney. Canberra is mostly webforms and mvc from >>>>>> what I >>>>>> know (govt is usually a bit behind), Qld and WA I am not sure about. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you're wanting to get back into web dev I would ask you why. Not >>>>>> joking. :) If your reason is because you want to update and get back into >>>>>> it I'd say go hard on Javascript. If you're after money I'd say forget >>>>>> all >>>>>> that and get into Salesforce lol. Kidding. Well not really. As I said >>>>>> earlier you need to know your market too if you're wanting to be valuable >>>>>> (hireable). >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, 16 June 2017, Preet Sangha <preetsan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi team, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Got Friday OT question for you all. I started .net with the beta >>>>>>> and used aspx all those years ago. I stayed with ASPX until about 2007 >>>>>>> but >>>>>>> about then I moved into doing more desktop development. I'd really like >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> dust off and polish my web dev skills but there seems to be a plethora >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> things that have sort of past me by Azure, Javascript, Angular (?) to >>>>>>> name >>>>>>> a few. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I know that fair few of you do web dev so i was wondering what you >>>>>>> could advise as the must have skills today! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just to give you a history, from 2007 I did WCF/WF & WPF type stuff, >>>>>>> from 2010 I did more Cubes and SSRS BI stuff and for the past couple of >>>>>>> years I've been doing pure legacy desktop C++/CLI/.Net so not a lot of >>>>>>> webbie stuff at all :-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>> Preet, in Auckland NZ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >> > > > -- > piers > more pedantry at http://piers7.blogspot.com/ >
