Cheers piers. That's a hell of map.

On 23/06/2017 2:10 am, "Piers Williams" <piers.willi...@gmail.com> wrote:

https://github.com/kamranahmedse/developer-roadmap seems like quite a good
landscape overview

On 18 June 2017 at 18:47, Preet Sangha <preetsan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks guys. I suspect that what I'm really after is the answer to the
> question "I'm gonna do some web dev to support my IOT projects, and to make
> the skills saleable, what web technologies should I consider as must haves
> these days?"
>
> I can see that javascript is the big one! As a .netter I'll obviously get
> reskilled in MVC and I already have ORM & SQL skills anyway.
>
> Again thanks for taking the time for your detailed answers!
>
>
>
> regards,
> Preet, in Auckland NZ
>
>
> On 18 June 2017 at 15:02, Stephen Price <step...@lythixdesigns.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I'm currently working on an Android application which is part of a
>> product suite.
>>
>>
>> The work going on in the Xamarin space is very active. Many new features
>> and bug fixes coming out regularly.
>>
>> Mature is a relative term I think. If you compare Xamarin with other
>> frameworks that have been around longer and are relatively slow moving (ie
>> say WPF) then yeah you could say its less mature.
>>
>>
>> If you want stable, then I would say that is there. The stable releases
>> are stable enough to use in production. Perfect? No, but each new release
>> is more stable than the last. Currently seeing several releases per month.
>> Show stopper bugs are unusual.
>>
>>
>> Looking at your post about getting into web technologies, I would say
>> that it would be difficult as a developer today to be able to be all over
>> Web technologies as well as Xamarin/mobile. Throw desktop into that and you
>> further dilute your skill focus. I have worked with all of these, desktop,
>> web and mobile. My experience is if you focus on one of them, keeping up to
>> date, then you miss things in the others. Last year I was working on
>> Angular 2 (about the time it released, I was using the final RC's) and I
>> don't even know what version it's at now.
>>
>>
>> It takes a lot of time to keep up to speed with so many fast moving
>> fronts. The more time you have available the more of them you can keep on
>> top off. I guess it comes down to your personal interests and goals on
>> which you focus on. Which do you enjoy the most? Do you contract or
>> permanent? Do you enjoy going deep on one technology or like to spread your
>> skills across many different technologies? If you do go deep on one, then
>> that will take you away from others.
>>
>>
>> Do what you love, you will do way better at it and it won't even feel
>> like work. Changing from one technology to another can take time as
>> employers tend to hire people with experience. I think you are on the right
>> path finding out the must haves to learn, but finding the "right" one might
>> be a much harder task as there are so many. In all my years as a developer,
>>  I've never seen two projects using identical technology stacks. Even when
>> you compare two Angular projects, or whatever.
>>
>> That's gotta make choosing what to learn so much harder.
>>
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Stephen
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com <ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> on
>> behalf of Preet Sangha <preetsan...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, 18 June 2017 9:59:16 AM
>> *To:* ozDotNet
>> *Subject:* Re: What are the WebDev technologies that any self respecting
>> Dev should know these days?
>>
>> Are the. Net core skills in demand where you guys are based? Is anyone
>> doing commercial projects in the portable technologies?
>>
>> I've read about people experience of xamarin on the list and it doesn't
>> seem to resonate as mature technology.
>>
>> On 16/06/2017 11:00 pm, "Preet Sangha" <preetsan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Cheers. I appreciate the feedback.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Preet, in Auckland NZ
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16 June 2017 at 20:07, Bec C <bec.usern...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Melb market is also filled with Dynamics and Sitecore work.
>>>>
>>>> But as .net dude said JS is where it's all at. I found it very hard to
>>>> get work in Melb with no Angular or React experience.
>>>>
>>>> "Full stack" they usually want Angular or React, css, webapi, entity
>>>> framework, sql server.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, 16 June 2017, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Preet,
>>>>>
>>>>> Generally, Azure and JS frameworks like React and Angular is where
>>>>> "it" is mostly at these days as far as general .net wed dev goes. It
>>>>> also depends on location from my experience. I'm not familiar with the
>>>>> Auckland market at all. In Melbourne most of the maintenance work is in
>>>>> mvc, very little if any webforms, LOTS of Angular/React/whatever JS
>>>>> framework. Same for Sydney. Canberra is mostly webforms and mvc from what 
>>>>> I
>>>>> know (govt is usually a bit behind), Qld and WA I am not sure about.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you're wanting to get back into web dev I would ask you why. Not
>>>>> joking. :) If your reason is because you want to update and get back into
>>>>> it I'd say go hard on Javascript. If you're after money I'd say forget all
>>>>> that and get into Salesforce lol. Kidding. Well not really. As I said
>>>>> earlier you need to know your market too if you're wanting to be valuable
>>>>> (hireable).
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, 16 June 2017, Preet Sangha <preetsan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi team,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Got Friday OT question for you all.  I started .net with the beta and
>>>>>> used aspx all those years ago. I stayed with ASPX until about 2007 but
>>>>>> about then I moved into doing more desktop development. I'd really like 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> dust off and polish my web dev skills but there seems to be a plethora of
>>>>>> things that have sort of past me by Azure, Javascript, Angular (?) to 
>>>>>> name
>>>>>> a few.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know that fair few of you do web dev so i was wondering what you
>>>>>> could advise as the must have skills today!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just to give you a history, from 2007 I did WCF/WF & WPF type stuff,
>>>>>> from 2010 I did more Cubes and SSRS BI stuff and for the past couple of
>>>>>> years I've been doing pure legacy desktop C++/CLI/.Net so not a lot of
>>>>>> webbie stuff at all :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>> Preet, in Auckland NZ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>


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