As some one who resorts to ND hospital work when the Community work is not there to pay the mortgage. I understand what Cheryl is saying but add that I tuck the baby up in bed with mum and mostly the next day the woman is not only refreshed fro m a lovely sleep but elated as she slept and fed,cared for her baby!!! Like James McK' and others studies the women report differently to what happensand the positives, mum & bub! dENISE
----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl LHK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 4:20 PM Subject: re:formula without consent? > > > I work night-duty and see another side of this. By the time I get to work > the new Mum's who have had a rotten day are having an even worse night. > They have been told by midwives all day to put the baby to the breast, they > are exhausted, have nipple trauma etc. ... the midwives are so busy, they > have no time to do as much education and assistance as they would like too. > Unfair to the Mum's - Yes, but thats life on hospital wards, especially when > we have a mix of ages 0 - 90 on any given day. > > by the time I get to work, (and it's happened enough), they are in tears, > desperate for assistance and want me to give this baby formula. One thing > that I find works for me is that I ask them if they are happy to stay awake > for another half an hour, I make sure that the baby is attached and sucking > well (regardless of if the baby fed an hour ago), then I make sure Mum has > drink/Panadol/hot pack etc, and get her into bed, settle baby and make sure > that she gets 3 solid hours of sleep. > > Now, I know there will be many that criticise and say that the baby should > room in all the time and that mothers just have to get used to being tired, > but I think that we as midwives defeat our own purpose at times by being a > bit heartless. Many of the mother's request that the baby stays with them > the rest of the night once they have had the break and the 'formula > discussion' seems to be forgotten. It doesn't happen every night to every > Mum, but sometimes a litte bit of practical help (not just the education) > can make the difference between a Mum throwing her hands in the air and "I > Quit" to a women who knows that she will need a bit of help but can continue > to breast-feed. > > Of course what I said above can be done if we are having a reasonable night, > but if it's busy, it just compounds the problems of the day, and the next > night she often will have suppressed. Frustrating at times. > > > > > >From: "Grant and Louise" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "Ozmidwifery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: re:formula without consent? > >Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 10:44:20 +1100 > > > >Oh I see this happen regularly, consent is given - but not INFORMED > >consent. > >" Your baby NEEDS a bottle/comp/some food because s/he's > >hungry/dry/jaundiced/big/little/sleepy/crying/prem/overdue/urates in the > >nappy (or you've laboured/had a caesar/had diabetes/were overdue/had lots > >of > >visitors) " No discussion of alternatives or possible outcomes of the > >"little bottle". > >In the mothers eyes it's okay because WE ( who are classed as the medical) > >say so. > >Louise > >The cure for all things is salt water - > >Sweat, tears, or the sea. > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >-- > >This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > >Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
