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Lynne, I really appreciate the examples here... I guess I'm a bit worried if the same thing happens again.... I mean going to 43 or 44 weeks and running low on amniotic fluid... I think I'd be drinking gallons (not that I wasn't, cause I did those last few days) and using OFP heaps. I know that my gestational period is around the 42 to 44 week mark because of when I started getting real ctx (the Monday before I had Dan... about 5 days earlier)..... It just doesn't seem fair I guess... I mean, I went through an unec. C with my first at 38+5 weeks and then end up having another C-birth for totally different reasons... Sorry, I don't mean to sound self-piteous but it really stinks! Just gotta work through it and move on. If I had a crystal ball and could see how my next birth was going to happen and it turned out the same way I would do everything in my power not to get pregnant... I love Dan... he is an absolute joy but I don't want to go through all that again.
 
Thanks for the feedback ya'll...
 
cheers,
 
Cas.
 
Cas McCullough
 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynne Staff
Sent: Wednesday, 5 November 2003 5:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] effects of contractions on the fetus???

Did you feel at the time it was the right thing to do Cas? There were elements that made up your particular set of circumstances at that time, and part of that was you feeling what was the right thing to do at that time with your unique situation. A good friend of mine woke up one morning (her baby was 42 weeks) and she felt a sense of urgency that her babe had to be born that day. The babe was moving well, felt to have a good amount of amniotic fluid around it, was also head down and seemingly 'ready to go' and had felt like that for ages. My friend thinks she would STILL be in there because she seemed so happy, but something told her the baby had to come out that day, because.....and she doesn't know what the because was, just that it had to happen.(Born at home) 
 
Another mother was 42 + 2 and had a similar labour to the one you describe Cas, not a lot of amniotic fluid on palpation, good movements. She ruptured her membranes and there was quite heavy meconium staining (first babe). Contractions stayed at 5 mins, after a day she opted for epidural, and within an hour went from 3 cm to fullu open, gave birth gently to a very 'flat' baby and loads of heavy meconium following his body out. He did need extensive resusc but is fine. Born in hosp, but planned homebirth - transfer during labour and treated with care and respect - I only add this because of the reception women can get of they are more than 42weeks. Very happy with care.
 
Another similar to the woman above (42 +2)and she went to theatre for a caesarean, because her babe was getting unhappy in her labour (also 5 minutely all night and 2 cm cervix). Lots of mec and nursery care for 5 days. Born in hosp but planned homebirth, also transferred to hosp, but treated with care and respect. Very happy with care.
 
Or Sally on Sunday night - 42 + 5 (definite dates), on and off labour for a few days, got going on Sunday afternoon - long labour for her (first babe quick labour and birth). This little man was OP, deflexed and stayed that way until being born. Ruptured membranes 1 hr before birth, clear liquor, but very squeezy shoulders. Came out with some help, and doing beautifully - an old soul in a new body!
 
Four of many stories Cas - each with their own set of circumstances, and these women also reflected (and continue to do so), on what might have happened had things been different.
 
Catch up soon :-)
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Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 9:10 AM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] effects of contractions on the fetus???

that refers to the increased moulding of the fetal head, the increased possibility of cord compression and a possible decrease in pH as a result with ruptured membranes.
 
Six months after Dan's birth, this is something I wonder about... I was 17 days past my due date, ripe cervix, head well down in pelvis and in anterior position (had been posterior for a week and a half with ctx getting to five minutes then stopping), had good foetal movements but sometimes got a bit worried if I didn't feel anything for a couple of hours, had no amniotic fluid whatsoever, the sonogram at 16 days PD showed chord wrapped around bub's neck and a tiny bit of amniotic fluid in bub's stomach, no foetal distress but a slightly lowered heartrate (around 90 to 110 average when not active), was having ctx but nothing regular at that stage... was my baby likely to go into distress if I tried to birth him normally? At that stage the only choices offered to me were induction with half strength prost., no syntoncinon or scheduled caesarean... I feel like I should have waited a couple more days but I realise that you can only make decisions based on the circumstances you are in. I didn't want to induce with no amniotic fluid.
 
Thing is, he came out with perfect appearance (no postmaturity) and perfect lung function and near perfect Apgars 8 and 9. There was some green mec. staining on placenta and a couple of calcium deposits and bub's head showed signs of moulding.
 
I would really like to know if I had any other choice? Please be brutally honest. Did I just give in to the pressure or did I make a choice that saved my baby's life?
 
I am really grieving this at the moment and it would help to understand things better.
 
Cheers,
 
Cas.  
 
 
Cas McCullough
 

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