Hi Kirsten, Babies can die during a vbac with uterine rupture, but uterine rupture is very rare and babies deaths during uterine rupture even rarer. I am not sure about the choking though?? Uterine rupture can occur in a normal birth also. The statistics are slightly higher with a vbac. With one to one focused care of a woman having a vbac, a uterine rupture should not result in death of a baby. If a woman is encouraged to be intouch with her body and a carer is aware and focused on a woman, then they would both know if something like a rupture was happening. There are numerous precautions that a woman and carer can take in a vbac, primarily staying away from unnatural induction. Inducing can cause unnatural contractions and put too much pressure on the scar and uterus. Also if a woman can stay clear of drugs during labour, she is more aware of the different types of pain(if any) during contractions. If a rupture does occur, there is time to get the baby out with no harm as long as mum and carer are aware of it happening. There is so much WONDERFUL information regarding vbacs, ruptures etc on the net. Search on google for natural vbacs and you will find a wealth of info. Also check out www.birthrites.org.au ( I think that's it. Ruptures are a tiny spec in the world of vbacs, something to be aware of but not afraid of. So many women have amazing birth experiences after c-sections. As for your friend that is breech............there are lots of primary carers that believe this is normal, and that women can have a normal birth........unfortunately, sometimes you have to dig to find a good carer. If she does have a c-section, there is usually no reason why a natural birth in the future is out of the question.
Love Abby- who is not a professional, but has researched a lot for my own personal reasons. I am fully open to being corrected if I have said anything that someone disagrees with. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirsten Wohlt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 9:06 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Tragic c-section outcome > I am a first year B. Mid student and just wanted to share something. I am very new at all this, so sorry if I sound a bit naive! :) I am the treasurer of my local Aust. B/feeding Assoc. group, and we had a dinner last night to farewell a counsellor. We were talking about the current debates re c-sections. One of the counsellors told us a tragic story about a friend of hers who undertook a natural birth following a previous c-section. During labour (not sure what stage) the old c-section scar in the uterus ruptured, and the babies head pushed through. The continuing uterine contractions then literally choked the baby who did not survive. I was absolutely horrified to hear this story. I don't know how common this would be - a doctor at the table said she had heard of many bad outcomes following c-sections, but nothing like that. I guess the sad thing is that some women have no choice but to have a caesar to safely birth a child, as was the case for this woman I believe. Then next time, she wanted the natural birth and had this dreadful outcome. More reason to avoid the elective c-s in my opinion, but no solace for those requiring the surgery. One of my follow throughs is facing a caesarian at the moment. She is 38 weeks pregnant and her baby (number 1 and very tiny mum) is breech. An ECV was unsuccessful last week and she has previously tried every natural therapy and old wive's tale to get the little one to turn, but to no avail. I certainly won't be sharing this story with her, but it has made me feel so nervous (for want of a better word) for her and her future birthing experiences. > > I am really enjoying reading all that you are sending out. The mails you are all generating have been food for thought on many topics indeed. > > Many thanks, > > Kirsten > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
