Sorry, the site is http://www.birthrites.org/

Here are some other useful sites

http://www.worldserver.com/turk/birthing/VBACSuggestions.html

These are from a couple that lost their daughter during a vbac and rupture.
I do not necessarily agree with everything they say, but they do have good
suggestions.

http://www.gentlebirth.org/archives/icanvbac.html#Safety

This has great VBAC Safety/Rupture Statistics

http://www.storknet.com/stories/vbac.htm

Some great stories of vbacs and hbacs

Have fun reading.
Love Abby



----- Original Message -----
From: "Kirsten Wohlt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 9:06 AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Tragic c-section outcome


> I am a first year B. Mid student and just wanted to share something.  I am
very new at all this, so sorry if I sound a bit naive! :)  I am the
treasurer of my local Aust. B/feeding Assoc. group, and we had a dinner last
night to farewell a counsellor.  We were talking about the current debates
re c-sections.  One of the counsellors told us a tragic story about a friend
of hers who undertook a natural birth following a previous c-section.
During labour (not sure what stage) the old c-section scar in the uterus
ruptured, and the babies head pushed through.  The continuing uterine
contractions then literally choked the baby who did not survive.  I was
absolutely horrified to hear this story.  I don't know how common this would
be - a doctor at the table said she had heard of many bad outcomes following
c-sections, but nothing like that.  I guess the sad thing is that some women
have no choice but to have a caesar to safely birth a child, as was the case
for this woman I believe.  Then next time, she wanted the natural birth and
had this dreadful outcome.  More reason to avoid the elective c-s in my
opinion, but no solace for those requiring the surgery.  One of my follow
throughs is facing a caesarian at the moment.  She is 38 weeks pregnant and
her baby (number 1 and very tiny mum) is breech.  An ECV was unsuccessful
last week and she has previously tried every natural therapy and old wive's
tale to get the little one to turn, but to no avail.  I certainly won't be
sharing this story with her, but it has made me feel so nervous (for want of
a better word) for her and her future birthing experiences.
>
> I am really enjoying reading all that you are sending out.  The mails you
are all generating have been food for thought on many topics indeed.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Kirsten
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