Hi Trish,

> Abby, if I didn't think I was trying to impart a degree of wisdom, and
assist students to find their own wisdom, together with the women (heard
of the follow-through experience???) and the lovely midwives in hospitals
who assist them with onsite learning, and the VERY occassional homebirth
midwife who can take a student... then I would give it up. With
(diminishing) respect, evaluate a curriculum or two, enrol in a midwifery
program, and don't generalise what you see in a workshop of 10
midwives to what is taught in every curriculum in Australia.

I don't know why, because I disagree with the training that I know of, this
means that disrespect is okay. Whoa. I am just a mum, passionate about women
and birth, with a voice. Please disagree with me, but I don't think comments
like (diminishing) respect are necessary or helpful. I'm not really into
personal attack in disagreements......well only with my husband! Maybe
because I am only a mum and not a midwife then you see my opinion as
threatening or not worth noting, so that warrants disrespect?? I don't
know.........whatever.

I am not generalising from one workshop I attended. I believe in testimony
as a conveyancer of truth. I have listened to qualified midwives, student
midwives, teaching midwives, international midwives and student
midwives,that have quit their courses because of lack of education,
testimonies and stories of there education, or lack there of. I don't know
where they went to school or trained, I do know they are/were unhappy with
it.

I'm going to leave it there Trish. I think you are seeing what I am saying
in a really wrong light.
I do not, never have and never would claim to have all the answers or even
one answer. I do not claim to know how to fix the worlds problems or stop
all maternal deaths. What I do know is that most birthing practices in this
country suck! Women are being treated poorly by alot, not all, caregivers
and something needs to change. I am a dreamer and a hoper. I find nothing
wrong in dreaming of a better future for women in birth.

I don't want to argue about this curriculum says this and this says that
blah blah blah, I wouldn't even know. I only know what women have shared and
what I have read.

It would be a great shame if you quit midwifery. You seem a strong,
knowledgeable woman committed to women, change and education. I think it is
wonderful that teachers like you exist.

Love Abby

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