Jo, Mercy Hospital for Women and Royal Womens in Melbourne.

I am so glad for the responses I have had so far. I had never heard of this
happening, I truly thought it was a joke being played on me. Yet for 2
different women in two different hospitals to share their experience of it
was mind boggling. How many other women and their babes experience this yet
don't realise the realities? The reality being it is basically useless. At
least now I am aware of it and I can give my clients options, if and when
the alligator forceps are brandished. But then some women would love to have
a lock of their babes hair stickytaped to a piece of cardboard before it is
born. Would go nicely beside the whiz bang 3D/4D ultrasound snapshots.



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean & Jo
Sent: Tuesday, 29 March 2005 10:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Pulling hair from fetal scalp

That's is what I feel about this Kristie...what happens if babe was
presenting face first and you pokes their eye out with this thing!?  My
AROM had already been preformed and the dr used the alligator thingies
with me.  It is one of the clearer memories I have of that stage of
labour.  I remember the way in which the dr looked at the hair with that
stupid almost comically quizzical look and said "well dark hair it is!"
AS if I cared!!

I thought that perhaps it was some way of getting some feotal blood to
sample but there was nothing recorded on the notes that the procedure
had been done or the results.  

Anyone else heard of this??


Isis, can I ask where this was done?

Jo

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristie
Orchard
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 9:23 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Pulling hair from fetal scalp

Goodmorning
Although I have seen ARM performed with forceps I've never seen it being

done with the express purpose of trying to pull baby's hair or skin 
(thankfully!).
Is it presumed no hair = no head ?!(as opposed to not engaged/bald,etc)
I wonder if the practitioner performing this procedure would like their 
head, face, bottom, testicles or other presenting body part tugged with
a 
surgical instrument when just trying to be born?!

Kristie

>From: "Isis Caple" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: <[email protected]>
>Subject: [ozmidwifery] Pulling hair from fetal scalp
>Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 08:35:01 +1000
>
>Hi ladies,
>
>
>
>Can anyone shed some light on this procedure for me please?
>
>
>
>A pair of flat bladed (like tweezers) scissors being used to perform an
>amniotomy with the possibility of fetal scalp hair and skin being
'pulled'
>at the same time.
>
>
>
>A good friend of mine only recently shared this experience with me
about 
>her
>son's birth (August 2003). Apparently she and her husband were warned
that
>hair and/or skin may be pulled, if hair was pulled it was a good
indication
>of the babe being head down. After the procedure was performed, her
son's
>hair was presented to them on a piece of cardboard.
>
>
>
>This was verified by another woman who overheard and shared her similar
>experience. I have never heard about this procedure, I can't find
reference
>to it in any of my texts, or on the net. I must be looking in the wrong
>areas.
>
>
>
>Thanks- Isis
>
>
>
>
>

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