Hi Jo,

Maybe a better idea would be for the drug companies to work for free and
then we could pay through our taxes for all the research and maybe we
shouldn`t elect corupt officials who are intent on doing us harm in the name
of profit!!

Pam
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:52 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Vaccination


> Hi Pam,
>
> I'm not questioning a Dr's ethics - simply stating fact. What I am
> questioning is the ethics of drug companies and the Govt.
>
> Jo
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dr Chris
Harnden
> Sent: Wednesday, 27 July 2005 10:34 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaccination
>
> Hi Jo,
>
> I think it is difficult to generalise when you talk about GP`s being
> motivated by money when they vaccinate against children I believe it
spreads
> a feeling of mistrust in the medical profession. They did not attend
medical
> school and go through years of training to endanger their patients purely
on
> the basis of money.
> They became doctors to look after the sick and injured and to protect
their
> patients I`m sorry you had a bad experience but to question a doctors
ethics
> is dangerous.
>
> Pam
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "jo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 11:47 AM
> Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Vaccination
>
>
> > Hi Jo,
> >
> > Vaccination is such a personal and difficult issue and no one can make
the
> > decision for you. It is one of the many decisions you will have to make
> over
> > the years on behalf of your child and empowering yourself with
information
> > is the best start.
> >
> > I'd like to share with you my personal experiences around vaccination.
> Like
> > you, I had reservations about vaccinating when my first baby was born,
> after
> > much agonizing we decided to go with the vaccinations. The 2 month one
was
> > ok, if not distressing for myself and my baby, some temps in bub but
> > generally ok.
> >
> > The 4 month one was a different story. Although no where near as severe
as
> > some stories I have read, the reaction she had was enough for me to
> > discontinue any vaccinations. Within 12 hours of the vaccination her
temp
> > was 40 deg, she screamed non stop for almost 24 hours, she arched her
> back,
> > refused to breastfeed, would not take any fluid at all (I tried boiled
> water
> > on a teaspoon), she started to projectile vomit and continued to for
appr
> 9
> > hours. Fortunately a few days later she was back to her normal self.
When
> I
> > spoke to the Dr she said it's ok it will pass and its more than likely a
> > reaction to the vaccination. I felt a lot of guilt at injecting some
> unknown
> > substance into my perfect baby and made the decision then and there to
> > always go with my instincts.
> >
> > I went on to have 3 more children and have not vaccinated any of them,
> they
> > are now 9, 7, 5 and 3 and are all healthy normal children.
> >
> > Like the RH - discussion I do believe there is an awful lot of money to
be
> > made  by drug companies and the Govt. Dr's receive a monetary incentive
> from
> > the Govt when they vaccinate a child and the more vac's they give the
> higher
> > the payment from the Govt.
> >
> > There is just so much to consider around this issue and the book
> Vaccination
> > Roulette - you can order it through www.avn.org.au is an extremely
> > informative read and a real eye opener.
> >
> > If you do decide to vaccinate Jo, I think breaking them up and doing one
> at
> > a time is a great idea and it would give his little system a chance to
> fight
> > each one individually.
> >
> > The one thing that I find extraordinary is that if there is an outbreak
of
> > measles at school (an outbreak is considered 1 case). I need to keep my
> > unvaccinated children at home in order to protect the other vaccinated
> > children. If vaccination really worked this should not be an issue as
> those
> > vaccinated children should be 'protected' against the disease. This has
> > actually happened to me and a whole heap of kids at school went down
with
> > measles (most immunized) and mine didn't - WHAT THE?
> >
> > Good luck Jo on making this very difficult decision.
> >
> > Warm regards
> >
> > Jo Hunter
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JoFromOz
> > Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2005 11:28 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [ozmidwifery] Vaccination
> >
> > Hi All.
> >
> > I don't want this to start a war or anything, but I would just like to
> > hear people's opinions (and why) on vaccinating babies.  This is the
> > week for our first vaccinations (I declined Birth HepB) as William is 2
> > months old tomorrow.  We do want to get him vaccinated, it's just a
> > matter of when we start, and whether we get them all done together.
> >
> > Here is why I'm hesitant:
> >
> > He is only 2 months old, and not going to be going into any childcare in
> > the near future (at LEAST 12 months if ever).
> >
> > It isn't normal for a body to have to produce antibodies to 7 diseases
> > all at once - or is it?
> > I was thinking that it would be better to get only one injection at a
> > time so that if he reacts to something really badly, we will know which
> > vaccine to avoid next time.
> >
> > The diseases such as Hep B and tetanus, and Diptheria, etc aren't all
> > that likely to find my son just yet - or are they?
> >
> > However...
> >
> > Should I just do it and not make a fuss? Just follow the government's
> > schedule?
> > He is in contact with 3 adults who work in schools - would that be a
> > reason to vaccinate sooner rather than later?
> >
> > We have looked at pros and cons, and still can't come up with a concrete
> > decision.
> > Any opinions/info would be appreciated!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jo :)
> >
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