i have been wondering lately about the other side of things. i was with a woman last week who was feeling strong urges to push and was pushing involuntarily at the peak of each contraction from about 4cm. she only had two VEs - 4cm and 6cm. about half an hour after the 6cm one everyone was still talking her through breathing through the contractions and trying not to push. she had been doing a lot of poo so i checked her to clean her up again and there i see half a little head sitting on her peri. the poor poor lady still trying not to push through that. i feel awful that she never got to go with her urges. so what is the alternative? should women go with what their body tells them to do if that means pushing way before they're fully? she sustained quite a bad posterior vaginal wall tear as well - would this be related at all to pushing before full dilation?
love to hear your opinions because i really did feel bad for this poor lady having to fight her urges. she had so much faith in everyone.. ((anyway after all that she was very satisfied with her birth, had 8 of her family including her grandfather with her and a lovely baby girl.)) love emily --- jo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Interesting....I work with our local homebirth > midwife as a doula and we had > a client a few weeks back who never had the urge to > push, baby was finally > born about 51/2 hours after full dilation. The urge > never came to her, she > actively pushed towards the end - not directed by > anyone...although not > naturally occurring pushes. > > Jo Hunter > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Päivi > Sent: Thursday, 25 August 2005 7:31 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ozmidwifery] if mother wants to be > directed for pushing > > Hi again, > > Like I told you earlier, I have just started a > childbirth education program. > > One of my students just gave birth and had a quick > and straight forward > unmedicated 1st stage, but ended up pushing for > 1.45minutes. She said she > had no idea, what she had to do and told very > clearly to the midwife to > direct her for pushing. I had promised to be her > doula if she felt she > needed me, but since it all went so quickly, she > never called me. I was just > > wondering how I would have reacted to the situation > if I was there, since > during the training we emphasized spontanious > pushing, waiting for the urge > to push and following your own feelings. I noticed > there was discussion > about pushing here a week ago and I read the > wonderful artickle by Gloria > Lemay too. But what if the mom wants to be directed? > Do you ever direct a > woman in 2nd stage and if so, how? > The bag of waters was broken in the end of > transition and water was green. > She was also given syntocin 40 minutes after she > started pushing, because > the contractions were getting less powerful... She > said she never felt a > real urge to push. She was pushing on all-fours and > on the low "birthing > stool". The baby was average size. Do you find, that > not all women get the > powerful urge to push, or is it just a matter of > waiting enaugh? > In my own two births I never found the pushing very > painful, but was not > given syntocin either. Does the syntocin make the > 2nd stage more painful? > Many questions again... would like to hear about > your experience. > > Paivi > Childbirth educator > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe > or unsubscribe. > > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe > or unsubscribe. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
