Noises during birth ARE similar to sex I think...not that I eaves drop that often! ;o) I think when people think of birthing positions and facial expressions not being 'ladylike' I often want to say "it doesn’t seem to bother people at the other end of the equation! -being conception!"
Thanks to cosmo and cleo we can now all feel comfortable with orgasim and the such...saw the headline for an article called "heads up on going down" gawd even made me blush! But when it comes to birth we are far more comfortable with the quiet well behaved serene woman. Just think, the lay back and think of england sex of years gone by has changed to be empowering, fulfilling and active....but birth has so far to go! Jo SA -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Miriam Hannay Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 10:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Men at births I'm with you, Megan! To give birth to a beloved child is the ultimate expression of the emotional and sexual love my husband and I share. He described me during labour and birth as being 'awesome, powerful, sexy, strong, more beautiful than ever before'. He even commented that the involuntary noises I made during birth were similar to the noises I make during orgasm! Obviously, such an experience relies on the nature of the birth itself, We had three babes at home and one in hospital, all beautiful physiological births with no intervention. With regard retaining your 'sexual mystery', I'm not quite sure what there is about sex and sexuality that's 'mysterious'. If a couple's sexual relationship is open, honest, loving and passionate, does there need to be any 'mystery'? To me this smacks a little of patriarchal notions of women's role as sexual object... Gee, I hope my husband doesn't find anything about me mysterious after fourteen years, otherwise how would he know what I need and desire?! What would be fantastic for men would be for all practitioners to actively facilitate a role for them during the birth process that makes them feel involved and reflects the extraordinary beauty of the experience. If only... regards, Miriam. --- Megan & Larry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Its interesting how the conversation focuses on the > womans vagina. > What about the rest of her body? > My husband loved the feeling of my muscles working > in my body, he says they > have been different for each birth. > The last 3 were water births, so no vagina watching > by any one. > Speaking on his behalf, I know that he was and is so > awe inspired by > watching me have our babies, it only added to his > desire and love. > So I guess the total experience of how women birth > is what we are looking > at. No surprises there! > The book, I think titled, Father Time, which is a > collection of interviews > of Australain men, discusses this and the men who > experienced homebirths > very clearly did not experience the trauma. > > I'm not sure about this "sexual mystery" thing > though. As a woman I take > great pride in having a uterus, vagina and breasts > that have created and > given life 4 times, its not all about "toys for > boys". > (Although having 4 sons kind of retracts that > statement) > > My thoughts anyway > Megan > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Andrea Robertson > Sent: Wednesday, 31 August 2005 10:26 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ozmidwifery] Men at births > > This is an interesting report in today's Sydney > Morning Herald. I remember > Michel Odent talking about research done in the US > that explored the effect > on a couple's sexual relationship when the man had > been exposed to the birth > process. Michel was advocating that women might want > to retain some of their > "sexual mystery" by excluding men from the birth > room. I have been at births > where I wondered how the father was taking the sight > of a practitioner > cutting an episiotomy..... > > What does everyone think about this? > > http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2005/08/30/1125302566185.html > > Regards, > > Andrea > > ----- > Andrea Robertson > Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in > Childbirth Education > > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > web: www.birthinternational.com > > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe > or unsubscribe. > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe > or unsubscribe. > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.17/85 - Release Date: 8/30/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.17/85 - Release Date: 8/30/2005 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
