Hi Jo,
I have read Aletha Solters book re stress release crying - I also believe there is a big difference between leaving a baby to cry and allowing a baby to cry to release stress BUT have a few buts!

I know mothers who have tried to let their babies release through crying -for a couple it seems right and for others not.

Last week I had this discussion with a mum who expressed my own concerns - is this just a form of sleep training but 'in arms'? I guess it depends on the particular baby. As Vedrana says - listen hard to what YOU feel is right - you know YOUR baby best!

Pinky


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My advice - think hard about what is happening in his life, listen hard to what YOU feel is right and remember that things change with time. This will pass. Waking up often won't hurt him.

Vedrana

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly @ BellyBelly
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 6:24 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Infant Sleep

Jo,

I hear you!!! My first born was a very wakeful sleeper and my second has
been waking often from four months - every time he is teething (i.e. now!)
he gets worse. I know lots of mums that have wakeful babies at four months
of age - so please don't feel alone!

You've really got to follow what works for you and ignore all the
conflicting advice - adopt only the bits which work for you, because as you will know, what works for one won't necessarily work for the other. A friend
of mine desperately wanted to co-sleep with her baby but to this day at
nearly four years of age, she still wants to sleep on her own, in her
bedroom, with the light off and door shut! Much to mums dismay!

Pinky will no doubt have some great advice for you but I can recommend her
book, 100 Ways to Calm the Crying and also a fantastic book recommended to
me by my birth teacher, Rhea Dempsey, "The Wonder Weeks" by Frans X. Plooij
& Hetty Vanderijt - two paeds. Here is the book blurb:

In The Wonder Weeks, you'll discover the specific dates during their first
14 months when all babies take eight major developmental leaps. And you'll
learn how to help your baby through the eight great "fussy phases" that mark these leaps within a week or two. Wonder week by wonder week, you'll see how
your baby's mind is developing. Now you will know which games and toys are
best for your baby during each key week and how to encourage each leap
forward. Calendars, charts, and checklists help you track your baby's
progress - and finally make sense of his fussy behavior. This is a baby book
like no other. It will be your indispensable guide to the crucial "wonder
weeks" of your baby's first year.

Remember... this too will pass... :)

Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Director, www.bellybelly.com.au & www.toys4tikes.com.au
Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth & Baby
Australian Little Tikes Specialists


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Sent: Monday, 17 October 2005 1:57 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Infant Sleep

Hi All...

Just wondering if any of you have any thoughts on this Q/A:
http://www.awareparenting.com/answer13.htm

The question seems to relate strongly to our situation at the moment.
Will is waking VERY often over night.  He only seems to need feeding
twice, as the other times he just semi-wakes and cries, and needs
rewrapping, and dummy back in.  I counted 18 awakenings the other night,
and I think the number came close last night.  This happens whether
co-sleeping or puting him in his cot in our room.  He seems to go to
sleep quite easily, but doesn't stay asleep.

The answer suggests not giving the dummy for sleep, but letting baby
cry-it-out, only in your arms.  It says that babies need this crying
time to release stress of the day and once it's gone, they will sleep
well (until they're hungry, of course).  If they don't get this crying
time, because the parents use rocking, dummy, wrapping, whatever to calm
them, then they need to wake often to cry, and try to release the stress.

It's all so confusing!  I hate the idea of letting him cry, whether I'm
holding him or not, especially when it's so easily fixed!

Thanks for listening!

Jo (Mum to Will, 4.5 months old)

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