Funny you should mention that Belinda, I was just writing a reply along
those lines...

I drank heaps of chamomile tea when we went on a long haul overseas trip
with our oldest son - he was 20 months old, and still a vigorous breast
feeder.  We also tried to get him to drink a bit, but no luck there.  I
think it helped, or maybe I was just sooooo relaxed by it all that nothing
bothered me too much...

Tania
x

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Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2005 10:42 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Infant Sleep

I wonder if you drink lots of camomile or peppermint tea throughout the 
evening?

Pinky McKay wrote:

> Hi Jo,
> I have read Aletha Solters book re stress release crying - I also 
> believe there is a big difference between leaving a baby to cry and 
> allowing a baby to cry to release stress BUT have a few buts!
>
> I know mothers who have tried to let their babies release through 
> crying -for a couple it seems right and for others not.
>
> Last week I had this discussion with a mum who expressed my own 
> concerns - is this just a form of sleep training but 'in arms'? I 
> guess it depends on the particular baby. As Vedrana says - listen hard 
> to what YOU feel is right - you know YOUR baby best!
>
> Pinky
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vedrana Valčić" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>
> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 5:21 PM
> Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Infant Sleep
>
>
>> My advice - think hard about what is happening in his life, listen 
>> hard to what YOU feel is right and remember that things change with 
>> time. This will pass. Waking up often won't hurt him.
>>
>> Vedrana
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly @ 
>> BellyBelly
>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 6:24 AM
>> To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
>> Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Infant Sleep
>>
>> Jo,
>>
>> I hear you!!! My first born was a very wakeful sleeper and my second has
>> been waking often from four months - every time he is teething (i.e. 
>> now!)
>> he gets worse. I know lots of mums that have wakeful babies at four 
>> months
>> of age - so please don't feel alone!
>>
>> You've really got to follow what works for you and ignore all the
>> conflicting advice - adopt only the bits which work for you, because 
>> as you
>> will know, what works for one won't necessarily work for the other. A 
>> friend
>> of mine desperately wanted to co-sleep with her baby but to this day at
>> nearly four years of age, she still wants to sleep on her own, in her
>> bedroom, with the light off and door shut! Much to mums dismay!
>>
>> Pinky will no doubt have some great advice for you but I can 
>> recommend her
>> book, 100 Ways to Calm the Crying and also a fantastic book 
>> recommended to
>> me by my birth teacher, Rhea Dempsey, "The Wonder Weeks" by Frans X. 
>> Plooij
>> & Hetty Vanderijt - two paeds. Here is the book blurb:
>>
>> In The Wonder Weeks, you'll discover the specific dates during their 
>> first
>> 14 months when all babies take eight major developmental leaps. And 
>> you'll
>> learn how to help your baby through the eight great "fussy phases" 
>> that mark
>> these leaps within a week or two. Wonder week by wonder week, you'll 
>> see how
>> your baby's mind is developing. Now you will know which games and 
>> toys are
>> best for your baby during each key week and how to encourage each leap
>> forward. Calendars, charts, and checklists help you track your baby's
>> progress - and finally make sense of his fussy behavior. This is a 
>> baby book
>> like no other. It will be your indispensable guide to the crucial 
>> "wonder
>> weeks" of your baby's first year.
>>
>> Remember... this too will pass... :)
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Kelly Zantey
>> Director, www.bellybelly.com.au & www.toys4tikes.com.au
>> Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth & Baby
>> Australian Little Tikes Specialists
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JoFromOz
>> Sent: Monday, 17 October 2005 1:57 PM
>> To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
>> Subject: [ozmidwifery] Infant Sleep
>>
>> Hi All...
>>
>> Just wondering if any of you have any thoughts on this Q/A:
>> http://www.awareparenting.com/answer13.htm
>>
>> The question seems to relate strongly to our situation at the moment.
>> Will is waking VERY often over night.  He only seems to need feeding
>> twice, as the other times he just semi-wakes and cries, and needs
>> rewrapping, and dummy back in.  I counted 18 awakenings the other night,
>> and I think the number came close last night.  This happens whether
>> co-sleeping or puting him in his cot in our room.  He seems to go to
>> sleep quite easily, but doesn't stay asleep.
>>
>> The answer suggests not giving the dummy for sleep, but letting baby
>> cry-it-out, only in your arms.  It says that babies need this crying
>> time to release stress of the day and once it's gone, they will sleep
>> well (until they're hungry, of course).  If they don't get this crying
>> time, because the parents use rocking, dummy, wrapping, whatever to calm
>> them, then they need to wake often to cry, and try to release the 
>> stress.
>>
>> It's all so confusing!  I hate the idea of letting him cry, whether I'm
>> holding him or not, especially when it's so easily fixed!
>>
>> Thanks for listening!
>>
>> Jo (Mum to Will, 4.5 months old)
>>
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