Amy your story is truly appalling and also totally normal in the system. How anyone can "refuse" your requests is disgusting! EFM does NOT save lives, it just increases c-sec rates. How about birthing with evidence based care at home if you have another baby? As Diana Korte says, if you don't want interventions, don't go where they're done ; ) I hope you recover well from your awful brush with the drug pushing and unnecessary intervention. I wish it were not the norm but it clearly is! J ----- Original Message ----- From: "adamnamy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 11:49 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] How long before synto is used?
> > This is really pertinent thread for us mothers on the list...it seems an > issue about which there are no clear guidelines which makes it really hard > for women who are attempting to be in charge of their own labors. They > don't even know what sort of time frame they will have in which to relax > into labor without pressure and threat of synto. I recently gave birth in > our major hospital, by ARM (2nd birth, Hx of fast labor, 2cms dilated, 36 > weeks but with cholestasis and very worried about that). I was extremely > keen to avoid synto/EFM and all the other nasty possibilities. > > I asked over and over for some clear indication of how long they would give > me to progress into labor with out synto but was not given one. Within an > hour of ARM I was being asked very regularly if I had contractions, with > frowns and talk about synto every time I said "not much happening". I > wonder how it might have panned out had I not been hassled every step of the > way...It only served to increase my anxiety 20 fold. We managed to hold > them off for 6 hours before it went up and the flogging of the body began. > It is just a revolting drug that should be avoided unless strictly > necessary. The labor was nothing short of torturous and degrading (I am > sure you have all seen it in action). > > I also wonder if it was the unrelenting intensity of the contractions that > forced my bub into a posterior, deflexed position within an hour of > established labor. Being hooked up to EFM doesn't help with keeping mobile > either. I am not a midwife-Could there be any truth in that idea? > > Anyway...I thought I had negotiated to switch it off once labor had begun > but lo and behold...a change of shift and the next midwife refused. I ended > up switching it off myself-to her utter bewilderment. This was an act of > desperation which left me quite compromised with her because our > relationship became quite frosty and unpleasant after this. I felt like I > lost her support when I took the reigns and bucked against hospital > protocol. It was like I had offended her...that she felt compromised by me > asserting myself. > > If I ever needed to follow the same course of action I would have the ARM > and then get myself home ASAP for labor to start itself. I feel as though > getting my baby out and the room prepped for the "next customer" was as much > of a priority as my wishes to keep my labor and birth low key...I don't > know, am I an eternal cynic? Bub calls, I have to go... > > Amy > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of diane > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:54 AM > To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] How long before synto is used? > > We sometimes have some confusion over whether the women should have oral > AB's cover if they are on home management of SROM. The policy doesnt call > for it, but some doctor's recommend this. When in established labour and > membranes are broken for more than 18hrs, then IV AB's are used. I guess > that confirms that you are at more risk in Hospital!! > > What do other units do? > > Cheers, > Diane > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "brendamanning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au> > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:51 AM > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] How long before synto is used? > > > "The UK's NICE guidelines inherited from the UK's Royal College of Obs and > Gynea suggest that it is fine to leave pre-labour rupture of membranes up to > 96 hours before induction of labour - " > > This is the policy at Rosebud. > > If doing ARM for IOL then waiting 4 hours is common & reducing the synto > once the labour is established is recognised as 'best practice". > > The recent research which associates IOL with syntocinon & an increase in > PPHs is acknowledged there. > > With kind regards > Brenda Manning > www.themidwife.com.au > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Debbie Slater > To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 12:04 AM > Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] How long before synto is used? > > > The UK's NICE guidelines inherited from the UK's Royal College of Obs and > Gynea suggest that it is fine to leave pre-labour rupture of membranes up to > > 96 hours before induction of labour - see > http://www.nice.org.uk/page.aspx?o=17381 > > > Debbie Slater > Perth, WA > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly @ > BellyBelly > Sent: Wednesday, 14 June 2006 8:48 PM > To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au > Subject: [ozmidwifery] How long before synto is used? > > For those who work in maternity units, I am just wondering what the policy > is in your unit in regards to how long a woman can continue after her waters > > have broken before having synto put up? There seems to be such pressure to > put it up fairly quickly (after you ask to at least wait at all!), with an > average of about 1 hour before the woman gets the pressure to speed things > up. > Best Regards, > > Kelly Zantey > Creator, BellyBelly.com.au > Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood > BellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
