----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 1:24
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Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: info
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Hi Joy,
You have done a great job in being an advocate for this woman.
And you are right in the need to remind him that 'no means no'. To
digitally penetrate a woman without her consent is sexual assault. And
why does he believe that your need to support him is more of a priority than
supporting the woman? It's inappropriate to write comments like
that in the notes. Perhaps he needs to be reminded that midwife means
'with woman' not 'with doctor'! : )
To my knowledge there aren't any studies on outcomes, in relation to
whether VE's are done or not. When I worked in a birth centre many women
birthed without a VE. There are so many other indicators of
progress. Actually my Mum had seven kids and said she NEVER had a
VE!
Cheers
Michelle
Joy Cocks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Thanks Judy and Barb for your support. Yes, the
woman did know, as he was trying to convince her and she asked why she
needed it and then said no, when he still tried to push for the VE I said
firmly "she said no" that's when the proverbial hit the fan. Might
need to remind him of the TV ads that no means no ;)
After the birth she asked if there was anything she could
do to support me. I just said we'll wait and see what
eventuates. What really hurt was that he wrote in the notes (where all
staff can see) that he was filing an incident report in relation to Joy
Cocks not supporting him, so I imagine I am the subject of hospital gossip
for a few days!
Joy
Joy Cocks RN (Div 1) RM IBCLC
BRIGHT Vic 3741
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 19:07
PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: info
required
Congratulations Joy, you did so well for the woman. You were
probably so discrete the woman may never have known you had to stand up
for her rights and dignity so she could get into her birthing space.Take
him on and just remind him that workplace bullying is not a good picture
to get in.
Take care Barb
Pheewww......Peiter Mourik used to come to our
hospital and give inservices when he held clinics there. I would
back up Wendy's comments. He's very clever with words and is god's
gift to women - always saving them! He believes that midwives
can only be independant when they can do forceps/ventouse
births!
Sorry, negative comments after a bad evening when I
stood up for a labouring woman who did not wish to have a VE when the GP
ob wanted to do one as how else would he know whether she was
progressing or not. He's writing an incident report about me for
not supporting him. He asked how I planned to manage the labour and
I told him that the woman was managing the labour and I would be worried
if she became worried. The woman proceeded to birth without
problem. Just feeling upset and hurt as he is my GP and we usually
work well together, but probably most other women are not as strong in
standing up for themselves.
Joy
Joy Cocks RN (Div 1) RM IBCLC
BRIGHT Vic 3741
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006
10:28 AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Fw: info
required
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 8:37 PM
Subject: info required
I will be meeting with Peter
Miourik(obstetrician) amongst others in an informal dinner setting on
Friday night as the hospital that I work at is having a review of
obstetric services . I believe this is a man who is quite against
midwifery led services and I'm a bit puzzled as to why I have been
asked to be one of the 2 midwifery reps at this dinner. But very
pleased at the same time, and more than happy to be a part of this.
Can anyone fill me in on what they know of this man?
Cath.
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