RE: [ozmidwifery] Backward step

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Tiff, I understand University of Queensland starts theirs next year! Barb -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of diane Sent: Monday, 2 October 2006 3:48 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Backward step Tiff, we have them in NSW too! Uni of Technology in Sydney. Di ----- Original Message ----- From: Rene and Tiffany To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 3:30 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Backward step Ganesha! Victoria has direct mid courses too?!! That’s awesome – I thought it was only south Australia that did. If I had a choice I would not have done nursing – just midwifery.  My family is all doctors and nurses and I NEVER wanted to be a nurse.  I’m in Queensland and we still have to do nursing first – we are soooo behind!  My goal has always been to one day be an independent midwife – and I have been ridiculed and dismissed by some of the nurses in my family because of this.  Once I complete my mid training – I won’t nurse again – but I am kind of glad now I have that skill… René (husband) is a doctor – doing GP training and wants to go into rural practice – so I might be more equip to help him out if he needs as well as get into those rural areas where there is a need for midwives.  This forum has been great guys – thankyou – you’re have really helped me broaden my understanding! Tiff J   From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Ganesha Rosat Sent: Monday, 2 October 2006 2:39 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Backward step   Hi again guys, “where is the nursing care in midwifery” is an interesting point. When I began my grad. last year it was stressed to me that it was important to do some work in the nursing wards to ‘enhance’ my midwifery skills. I think it was because I went through doing my nursing and midwifery together as a double degree (maybe unsure of my skills because I had never been a nurse). Like rene and tiffany I only did nursing to become a midwife. The year after I began my course direct midwifery courses were introduced in my state vic. I would have loved to have gone through that way. If we want others to respect our skills as midwives as unique and a separate profession, we need to acknowledge that midwifery is not a specialist nursing field. Cheers ganesha   From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Rene and Tiffany Sent: Monday, 2 October 2006 10:59 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Backward step   It has been fantastic reading all the responses to the nurse/midwife question.  As a nurse about to begin midwifery training, I look forward to learning and developing the specialist skills you wonderful women have described!  My original response stemmed from the fact that I became a nurse ONLY to become a midwife (as there was no other way at the time), but found that, I was unable to get any exposure to such, as training nurses and RN’s are generally unwelcome in maternity.  I would have given anything to have the opportunity to work and ‘help out’ in maternity whilst waiting to secure a student midwife place.  Instead I went straight into Mental Health after I qualified as an RN, whilst waiting for one of the 6 midwifery training positions that are offered.  Perhaps this does raise the issue about providing more training places for student midwives, and why is it that we have to work as NURSES for a minimum 12 months before we can train as midwives, when as many have pointed out – ‘where is the nursing care in midwifery?’  Thanks J   From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of brendamanning Sent: Monday, 2 October 2006 10:13 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Backward step   Going back to the maternity nurse or Gen/ Obstetric nurse working in Midwifery is how NZ worked in the 70's & 80's. It was unsatisfactory then & would be the same now, despite the fact the we did 6 months obs in our general training we weren't midwives & it showed.  I worked in mid whilst attending homebirths, worked in birth suite, postnatal, taught pre-natal classes & spent 3 years in charge of SCN as a RGON in the early 80's & when I went to train as a midwife just like Di M I too found it a revelation.   It's a retrograde step & undermines all the recognition of your specialised profession you Australian midwives have fought so hard for. It's just another path on: "follow the American leader".   With kind regards Brenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: D. Morgan To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] RE:   I agree Michelle, I too worked in a rural area prior to completing my Mid many years ago and can still remember the revelations I felt while learning Midwifery. As an RN non Midwife, I was quite ignorant of what a true Midwife's role involved. It was scarey stuff. Cheers Di M __________ NOD32 1.1784 (20060929) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com