Here in Colac we have a copy of the research, and findings, that was done
to support the sterile h2o injections, if that would be of any help. Pauline
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From: "Sue Cookson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Intradermal sacral sterile water injections
Hi Carolyn,
I presented the intradermal protocol and GBS protocol to the CNC at
Lismore the other day. She asked me if you could provide evidence to
support the intradermal injections, but was interested in the concept.
Anything would be great - I haven't done looking myself as I'm just
completing my degree. Did my last official birth last night - now for the
portfolio and remaining assignments.
Thanks, Sue
Hello Andrea, thanks for your kind words.
As for the sacral water injections, we have only used them for late first
stage and second stage. So repeats haven't been an issue for us. Yes, it
does sting, but all the women, bar one, found the injections wonderful.
One of the women I saw for her three week postnatal visit and she
voluntarily told me all about the injections with great wonder. I didn't
know she had them, and when I asked her all about her experience with our
service and the birth of her baby etc, she waxed lyrical about the change
in sensation with the injections. Very interesting.
And yes, because it stings so much, two midwives give the injection at
the same time, the women would not let you do it again immediately after,
they swat your hands away - or try to. :-) I appreciate the logic with
giving them both at the same time.
The midwives at JHH have been using them in the birth centre as well.
They reckon the injections are great too. I haven't heard any feedback
about the refusal for long labours, I'll check that out and get back to
you.
I'll send you the protocol from work, it's on my work computer,
warmly, Carolyn
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To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 7:06 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Intradermal sacral sterile water injections
Hi Carolyn,
It is so good to hear that Belmont is doing well - what a great standard
bearer for midwifery and women!
Can I ask you something about the sterile water injections? When I was
in the Colac area earlier this year doing a workshop, I was told that
although this method was brilliant at relieving the pain, especially
with posterior labours, women were often reluctant to have the
injections a second time, when the effects of the first round had worn
off (it was suggested the effect would last for 2 -3 hours). I found
this interesting, and speculated that the pain of the injections must
have been bad, for women to think that a short lived sting would be
worse than long painful contractions that often come with an OP labour.
What has been your experience with doing follow up injections,
especially during a long labour?
I was also told that it was a good idea to have two midwives do the
injections simultaneously - that way the pain was shorter (but
presumably more intense with two injections being done at the same
time). Can you shed any light on this aspect as well?
Many thanks,
Andrea
PS I would love a copy of your protocol as well, if you email it me.
At 02:00 AM 18/11/2006, you wrote:
Whilst I'm on the soapbox, I was thinking that you may be interested in
the intradermal water injections and their efficacy.
We had Janice Deocampo come to Belmont and give a seminar on the use of
this technique for women with excruciating back pain. Midwives came
from Gosford, Maitland, John Hunter and Taree. Janice presented her
information and we all practised on each other (OUCH). It feels like a
wasp sting. One of the midwives had back pain which was cured for six
hours with the injection she received that day!
It took us MONTHS to get the procedure through clinical governance.
However, it is through.
We have used the injections for about eight women since only one was
not completely successful. We have even found them fantastic for late
first stage when the backache has stopped the woman from progessing and
even second stage when women wouldn't push because the backache was too
bad. After the injections, voila - baby!
John Hunter midwives are also now using this technique too with great
success. Janice Deo Campo did a research project and the results are in
the Birth Issues Journal from CAPERS.
It is a wonderful, effective tool which may just help someone avoid an
epidural or even make birth much more manageable for those women with
excrutiating backache.
If anyone wants the protocol and information sheet, please email me at
work
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and I will send it to you.
warmly, Carolyn
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