I think Monthly to every six weeks is a good idea and alternate between 
physical meet ups and virtual ones... Of course if people are keen we can do 
the virtual meets far more often as suggested.

Remember, at the physical meet ups you get to have beer :) It's just not the 
same thing smashing 10 beers at my keyboard as it is having them with you guys 
:)

P.S. Sorry I missed last night, I've just moved house and don't have broadband 
on yet.

Jordan.

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of Mahesh S. Krishnan
Sent: Tuesday, 19 May 2009 7:20 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: First Virtaul SDDN Meeting

It was good meeting, Miguel, although I had to leave around 10:45...Didn't 
expect it to go that long :) My 2 cents -


1.       I would say c. It would be good to alternate between the two. 
Alternatively, we could have one presentation and then open the floor for 
discussions in the same meeting

2.       I think initially, we could arrange it in an ad-hoc manner, but as we 
get more people into it, fit it into a regular slot. I feel fortnightly is just 
too frequent - probably one every 6 weeks.

Cheers
Mahesh

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of Miguel Madero
Sent: Tuesday, 19 May 2009 12:15 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: First Virtaul SDDN Meeting

Everyone,

Thanks to all of you who attend the first Virtual SDDN. I think we had some 
interesting discussions. Some of them we can definitely continue on this mail 
list or in the next Virtual SDDN. Unfortunately I didn't record this meeting 
(I'll make sure to do it next time), but I'll include a list of resources from 
the talk, but first of all I'd like to ask a couple of questions.

1. What do you thing about the format?
    a) I hate open spaces, bring me some speakers with Powerpoints.
    b) It's good once in a while, but we should try a different format next 
time (probably alternate)
    c) I love it. Altough presentations are good, discussions add a lot of 
value.
    d) ???
2. How often would you like to have this type of events?
   a) Once a month.
   b) Fortnightly
   c) Eventually
   d) ???


During the talk we discussed about Patterns, we only had a chance to talk about 
MVVM and Tom told us he have been using Prism with MVP and Unity. These are 
some links
Prism<http://compositewpf.codeplex.com/>
MVVM by Nikhil<http://www.nikhilk.net/Silverlight-ViewModel-Pattern.aspx>
MVVM by 
Jonas<http://jonas.follesoe.no/YouCardRevisitedImplementingTheViewModelPattern.aspx>

We also talked a bit about Memory Leaks.
Delay on Memory Leaks in 
SL<http://blogs.msdn.com/delay/archive/2009/03/11/where-s-your-leak-at-using-windbg-sos-and-gcroot-to-diagnose-a-net-memory-leak.aspx>
I mentioned that we could use 
WinDbg<http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.microsoft.com%2Fwhdc%2Fdevtools%2Fdebugging%2Finstallx86.Mspx&ei=p2oRSoDwBYrKM5K92FI&usg=AFQjCNHf3h9385pKvQHMJRRGwiEwm4pl1A&sig2=tcJmKfnydI_ZtTeU61vDIA>
 or 
SilverlightSpy<http://silverlightspy.com/silverlightspy/download-silverlight-spy/>
 to detect Memory Leaks.
When it comes to WinDbg, Tess knows it all and she blogged about how to setup 
WinDbg for 
Silverlight<http://blogs.msdn.com/tess/archive/2008/08/21/debugging-silverlight-applications-with-windbg-and-sos-dll.aspx>

Andy and Stephen told us about the cool apps that they've written in 
Silverlight, but we don't have a lot of resources to show atm.

At the end we talked a about Behaviours in Silverlight 3. Shawn Wildermouth has 
a series on this 
topic<http://wildermuth.com/2009/05/16/Writing_Behaviors_for_Silverlight_3_-_Part_1>

We added a bonus topic on User Controls and we talked about the TreeView in the 
Silverlight Toolkit. We also mentioned the need to navigate the VisualTree to 
get to different Elements when needed. In this blog 
post<http://miguelmadero.blogspot.com/2008/07/use-visualtreehelper-to-navigate_18.html>
 I talked about how to use the VisualTreeHelper to do that and some extensions 
to do it easily (the code is avaailable for download). I've an updated version 
of this that supports more escenarios, like using expressions and LINQ to query 
for UIElements, contact me if you're interested.

I hope everyone enjoyed and got something out of this.
I'd love to have your feedback and see you again in another virtual or UG 
meeting.

Thanks
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Miguel Madero 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

This is the link for the 
event<https://www323.livemeeting.com/lrs/8000181573/Registration.aspx?pageName=gprcrzd1lgf2dhh4>,
 please register before the meeting and be sure you have Live Meeting installed 
on your computer and your audio properly configured. Some people have asked me 
about the place and how is this a Virtual Event. We'll be using this tool 
called Live Meeting that allow us to interact with audio, video and share the 
desktop, polls, Q&A, etc, but rather than trying to explain what Live Meeting 
is, you can just try it tonight. Just 
register<https://www323.livemeeting.com/lrs/8000181573/Registration.aspx?pageName=gprcrzd1lgf2dhh4>
 and follow the instructions.
If you have any doubts, please contact me.

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Miguel Madero 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Everything has been really quite lately, so it's time to SPAM the list again,

We're going to do a Virtual Meeting next monday at 9:00 pm Sydney Time, I think 
it ca be a great opportunity for everyone to participate.

Instead of the typical presentation, we decided to have an open discussion 
around different topics.

You can read all the details on my blog 
http://miguelmadero.blogspot.com/2009/05/first-virtual-silverlight-designer-and.html

We will be using Live Meeting. I'll email the link for the meeting ASAP.



I hope to see you (hear you or at least read you) on monday.

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