And there'll be a lot more like Barry if this isn't dealt with quickly, and
with finality.

We have a client who has invested heavily in a SL app at our recommendation.
It took us a very long time to convince them that SL was the right tool for
the job, and even after all that we are still getting the "why didn't we use
Flash" argument flaring up from time to time. This latest
development has the potential to make us look pretty darned foolish when our
customers get wind of it.

I believed at the outset that we made the right call, and I still do, but
now, just as SL is getting wider acceptance, things like this happen and as
a result we are going to have to go through all the old arguments once again
with a new app that is proposed for next year.

We have invested heavily in SL, and so have our customers, on the
premise that the platform would be around for the long haul. Statements like
Muglia's, followed further by a "clarification" that is more spin than
substance, and a meaningless statement from Ballmer do very little to put
the cat back into the bag. Hard facts, and more detail about future
development of the product (and it's tooling) over the next 5 years would go
a long way to restoring confidence.

On 2 November 2010 09:18, Barry Beattie <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think it's at this stage that I will unsubscribe from this list and give
> up on Silverlight for the moment as "irrelivant", perhaps checking back
> later.
>
> I was hoping SL would be able to produce worthwhile interfaces to the
> clunky rubbish found in products like Dynamics CRM but I just can't see the
> buy-in from that division to do much with SL and those products.
>
> Bye all. Have fun.
>
> Barry Beattie
>
>
>
>
>  On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Chris Anderson 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> It's amusing to see how many times Steve Balmer name dropped 'Silverlight'
>> in his post :).  Backpedalling ahoy!
>>
>> My concern from the beginning has specifically been with the phrase “Our
>> Silverlight strategy and focus going forward has shifted".  Bob says that's
>> not a negative statement in his post, but I disagree.  Microsoft "shifted"
>> their strategy away from Windows Mobile, and look what happened with it -
>> practically nothing for years.  After Microsoft released IE6 their strategy
>> "shifted" - again work on that product halted for years.  It wasn't like
>> either of them were perfect, and couldn't have done with more work!
>>
>> It was easier to brush off Scott Barnes' tweets as those of an ex-softie
>> that *might not* have the current full picture and strategic insight of
>> Microsoft, but harder when the controversy stems from the current president
>> of the Server and Tools division.  You could say that it was simply a bad
>> choice of words, but added to Scott Barnes' tips starts painting a bad
>> picture for Silverlight's future.  Stating that their strategy has shifted
>> sends the wrong message to CTOs, and creates the PR nightmare we are all
>> faced with now.
>>
>> Personally, I still have faith in Silverlight and its potential (both
>> current and future), and evidence showed that Microsoft shares it too
>> (LightSwitch, Windows Phone 7, etc).  I just hope that Microsoft continues
>> to see that potential through before chucking it on the backburner, and
>> doesn't abuse that faith.  Currently they have a rather demoralised
>> community, and it's going to take a lot to prop it back up.  Because those
>> of us promoting Silverlight will have a lot more work to do to now promoting
>> the platform.
>>
>> If one good thing comes from this controversy, it is that the community
>> has spoken, and it will *not* be happy with a shift in strategy.  Maybe,
>> just maybe, that will impact positively internally at Microsoft.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2 November 2010 07:19, Winston Pang <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>  Man do you ever sleep? Haha you seem to operate in US time.
>>>
>>> Bobs post seems to be getting some interesting replies...
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On 02/11/2010, at 5:28 AM, Jose Fajardo <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   Here's Microsoft's official statements
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob Muglia has posted extensively on the Silverlight Team Blog:
>>> <http://team.silverlight.net/>http://team.silverlight.net
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve Ballmer has also commented on his PDC blog:
>>> <http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2010/nov10/11-01Statement.mspx>
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2010/nov10/11-01Statement.mspx
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> .... either believe them or not completely up to you guys!
>>>
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