I am still really happy with our decision to go with Silverlight for our https, global, retail, ecommerce site as it fits very well with our business. If this changes over time, we will adapt. Currently it is still the best RIA platform out there, though I am not sure there are many sites out there in a similar situation to us.
If Microsoft are listening, please keep it best of breed. I am not sure continued discussion on this topic will benefit our subscribers, but will potentially diminish our numbers through the feeling of continual spam. Ross P.S. More fuel for the spam fire... Ross McKinnon C.I.O Michael Hill Jeweller A: 7 Smallwood Place, Murrarie QLD 4172, Australia P: +61 7 31663344 M: +61 413 128877 F: +61 7 33990949 E: [email protected] From: Shane Morris (Automatic Studio) [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, 2 November 2010 12:18 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Bob Muglias & Steve Balmers statements on committment toSilverlight To my mind all this noise re Silverlight v HTML5 does not really affect the Silverlight v Flash argument. The reasons to choose Flash or Silvelright are pretty much the same today as they were last week. The only change is a slight dip in confidence in MS's commitment to further innovation going forward, I guess. But for an organisation that made its platform decision based on what exists today rather than what might be coming, I feel like nothing much has changed? Shane ________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf of Grant Maw [[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, 2 November 2010 11:19 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: Bob Muglias & Steve Balmers statements on committment to Silverlight And there'll be a lot more like Barry if this isn't dealt with quickly, and with finality. We have a client who has invested heavily in a SL app at our recommendation. It took us a very long time to convince them that SL was the right tool for the job, and even after all that we are still getting the "why didn't we use Flash" argument flaring up from time to time. This latest development has the potential to make us look pretty darned foolish when our customers get wind of it. I believed at the outset that we made the right call, and I still do, but now, just as SL is getting wider acceptance, things like this happen and as a result we are going to have to go through all the old arguments once again with a new app that is proposed for next year. We have invested heavily in SL, and so have our customers, on the premise that the platform would be around for the long haul. Statements like Muglia's, followed further by a "clarification" that is more spin than substance, and a meaningless statement from Ballmer do very little to put the cat back into the bag. Hard facts, and more detail about future development of the product (and it's tooling) over the next 5 years would go a long way to restoring confidence. On 2 November 2010 09:18, Barry Beattie <[email protected]> wrote: I think it's at this stage that I will unsubscribe from this list and give up on Silverlight for the moment as "irrelivant", perhaps checking back later. I was hoping SL would be able to produce worthwhile interfaces to the clunky rubbish found in products like Dynamics CRM but I just can't see the buy-in from that division to do much with SL and those products. Bye all. Have fun. Barry Beattie On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Chris Anderson <[email protected]> wrote: It's amusing to see how many times Steve Balmer name dropped 'Silverlight' in his post :). Backpedalling ahoy! My concern from the beginning has specifically been with the phrase "Our Silverlight strategy and focus going forward has shifted". Bob says that's not a negative statement in his post, but I disagree. Microsoft "shifted" their strategy away from Windows Mobile, and look what happened with it - practically nothing for years. After Microsoft released IE6 their strategy "shifted" - again work on that product halted for years. It wasn't like either of them were perfect, and couldn't have done with more work! It was easier to brush off Scott Barnes' tweets as those of an ex-softie that *might not* have the current full picture and strategic insight of Microsoft, but harder when the controversy stems from the current president of the Server and Tools division. You could say that it was simply a bad choice of words, but added to Scott Barnes' tips starts painting a bad picture for Silverlight's future. Stating that their strategy has shifted sends the wrong message to CTOs, and creates the PR nightmare we are all faced with now. Personally, I still have faith in Silverlight and its potential (both current and future), and evidence showed that Microsoft shares it too (LightSwitch, Windows Phone 7, etc). I just hope that Microsoft continues to see that potential through before chucking it on the backburner, and doesn't abuse that faith. Currently they have a rather demoralised community, and it's going to take a lot to prop it back up. Because those of us promoting Silverlight will have a lot more work to do to now promoting the platform. If one good thing comes from this controversy, it is that the community has spoken, and it will *not* be happy with a shift in strategy. Maybe, just maybe, that will impact positively internally at Microsoft. Chris On 2 November 2010 07:19, Winston Pang <[email protected]> wrote: Man do you ever sleep? Haha you seem to operate in US time. Bobs post seems to be getting some interesting replies... Sent from my iPad On 02/11/2010, at 5:28 AM, Jose Fajardo <[email protected]> wrote: Here's Microsoft's official statements Bob Muglia has posted extensively on the Silverlight Team Blog: http://team.silverlight.net <http://team.silverlight.net/> Steve Ballmer has also commented on his PDC blog: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2010/nov10/11-01Statement.mspx .... either believe them or not completely up to you guys! 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